Re: New DFSG-compliant emacs packages
Yavor Doganov <email@example.com> wrote:
> Ð? Thu, 26 Oct 2006 10:30:58 -0400, Peter S Galbraith Ð½Ð°Ð¿Ð¸Ñ?Ð°:
> > There was a vote.
> Unfortunate one.
> > This new package abides by the results it and remains free.
> Are you saying that removing the manual makes Emacs "more free"?
Absolutely, according to Debian standards of free software.
> > As a bonus, they went to the trouble of packaging the docs into
> > `emacs21-common-non-dfsg' and you still complain? They could have
> > simply dropped the docs altogether; they didn't. All they have done is
> > separate the package into a part that the FSF says you can _completely_
> > and freely modify, and another part that the FSF says you can't.
> > Install the available non-free package and get over it.
> Thanks for this "bonus". I have added "non-free" to my sources.list,
> since this section no longer contains only unethical bits and it's not
> a felony to have it. A few practical problems, though:
> * It confuses my `apt-cache search', which now includes packages
> from the non-free section. It was very convenient before, because
> I was always sure that the packages I install are free software or
> free documentation. Now I have to check every package manually.
> * Besides the free GNU manuals, the non-free section contains
> really non-free documentation. This is confusing and again, implies
> manual checking.
> * vrms complains that the crippled half of Emacs is non-free. This
> is outrageous.
So fill a bug report. It should be called vdsfg or something.
> But let me put it honestly. I chose Debian because that was the GNU
> distribution that I thought stood firm on the ideals of software
> freedom. That's a big fat lie, actually.
Okay, the gist of the rest of your post if that you don't agree with the
existence of our `non-free' section. Fine. Neither does a minority of
DDs since we voted on that in the past as well, as I recall. I'm not
going to respond to any of it because it's pretty much all insulting
Throwing out non-free will throw out yours docs at the same time. Be
careful what you wish for. Debian doesn't make a distinction between a
bit non-free and a lot non-free. The non-free archive is non-free but
distributable; that's it.