Re: debian-multimedia.org considered harmful, Was: Unofficial repositories on 'debian' domains
> On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 5:06 PM, Reinhard Tartler <siretart@gmail.com>
wrote:
> > On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 3:23 AM, Chris Knadle <Chris.Knadle@coredump.us>
wrote:
> >> On Monday, March 05, 2012 10:42:50, Reinhard Tartler wrote:
> >> ...
> >>
> >>> Friendly discussion with the maintainer of debian-multimedia.org to
> >>> not replace libraries such as libavcodec and friends have failed
> >>> ultimatively (BTW, that is part of the reason why we've ended up with
> >>> an epoch of '4', dmo uses epoch '5'); he has repeatedly shown that is
> >>> not interested in collaborating with pkg-multimedia at all. He also
> >>> does not seem interested in installing libraries in a way that they do
> >>> not interfere with 'official' Debian packages (e.g., by changing
> >>> SONAMES, or installing in private directories, etc.).
> >>
> >> I've been trying to find where these discussions occurred, but I'm
> >> unable to find them in either [dmo-discussion] mailing list archives
> >> (which go back as far as June 2010), nor in the [debian-multimedia]
> >> mailing list at least as far back as January 2010.
> >
> > Try the pkg-multimedia-maintainers mailing list:
Thanks.
> > http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-multimedia-maintainers/2008-
> > November/002221.html
On this all I see is a request on the mailing list meant for Christian
re:epoch, but no reply. It's also 4 years ago, before the release of Lenny.
> > --
> > regards,
> > Reinhard
Other emails I see on [pkg-multimedia-maintainers] going back to 2010:
Christian Marrilat:
Mar 19 2011 (helpful):
Bug#618899: libffms2-dev: Missing dependecies [1]
Aug 14 2011 (quite interesting):
Bug#637758: libmp4v2-dev: Should be architecture any and not all [2]
Nov 19 2010 (snide):
Bug#544062: ITP: xcfa -- X Convert File Audio [3]
Christian might be opinionated, but it also seems to me like he's trying to
work (at least some) with d.o AFAICS.
Another recent thread relating to d-m.o:
Andres Mejia, Mar 5 2012:
Fwd: Re: Unofficial repositories on 'debian' domains [4]
Reinhard Tartler Mar 5 2012 (interesting):
Unofficial repositories on 'debian' domains [5]
Logic question: why is debian-multimedia.org considered a Debian domain when
it's not under a *.debian.org DNS name, but yet something *.debian.net is not
considered part of Debian? Is anything "*[debian]*.org" of issue?
On Friday, March 16, 2012 17:34:12, Andres Mejia wrote:
...
>
> Here's another one, showing more or less what Reinhard has been saying.
> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=592457
Yes I've read the above bug report previously -- it's simultaneously mildly
shocking but also not very illuminating. Christian gets frustrated when his
bug report is lowered in severity after 4 weeks with no explanation, S.Z.
makes an insinuation of a problem between Christian and ffmpeg maintainers.
There are several ways to read between the lines there.
Thankfully even though the social outcome is somewhat negative, the bug has a
positive technical outcome.
[1] http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-multimedia-
maintainers/2011-March/017082.html
[2] http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-multimedia-
maintainers/2011-August/021110.html
[3] http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-multimedia-
maintainers/2010-November/014112.html
[4] http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-multimedia-
maintainers/2012-March/025117.html
[5] http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-multimedia-
maintainers/2012-March/025125.html
-- Chris
--
Chris Knadle
Chris.Knadle@coredump.us
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