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Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy



On Sun, May 01, 2011 at 01:32:19AM +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
> FWIW I think that "rolling" or "CUT" miss the point entirely. As a
> Debian user I use stable on my servers (with a few backports for the 3-4
> things I need bleeding edge for). For my desktop I use unstable, and
> when that breaks (which is *very* rare, really) I go to snapshots and go
> back a few versions. I couldn't care about testing any less. And at
> work, every person I know either uses just stable or does the same as
> me. I know no testing user around me. Of course I'm not pretending I
> know the absolute Truth, but well, I find this whole "users want testing
> badly" thing dubious.

The real problem is not "users want testing badly", but "Debian wants
people to use testing badly". Because what Debian releases is testing.
If nobody uses it, we don't know until it becomes stable that it's
broken in some subtle ways because it's not exactly what everyone else
using unstable is using.

So while I do agree with the rest of your message, I do see a need to
make testing more attractive so that we have a solid user base actually
testing what we are going to release, and stop saying to people that
they shouldn't be using testing (and I've seen that said *a lot*).

Mike


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