if you start seeing bugs or getting email about your packages where the version string ends in em[0-9], or where dependencies mentioned by reportbug include such a version suffix, the user is running one of the two Emdebian distributions released alongside lenny (and based on lenny packages). You might also see Emdebian in the output of 'apt-cache policy' if your bug reports request or supply such data. If there is any doubt that the bug is present in Debian, please immediately re-assign the bug to the buildd.emdebian.org pseudo-package in the BTS. A patch for reportbug is being tested. A large proportion of the development work to actually get Emdebian to the point of two releases only happened after the lenny freeze began. (Not the recent deep freeze, the initial toolchain freeze before DebConf8). (reportbug itself is not currently part of Emdebian for a variety of reasons.) Emdebian only uses a small subset of Debian packages, so this principally involves the core packages in Debian, GTK+2.0 and dependencies, XFCE and GPE as well as a small number of applications like iceweasel, sylpheed, xchat-gnome and grisbi. Emdebian Grip 1.0 (lenny) ------------------------- A small Debian-compatible Emdebian installation Architectures: i386, amd64, powerpc, arm, armel, mips and mipsel Emdebian Grip explicitly supports mixing Debian and Emdebian and that is how a Debian package could end up depending on a package from Emdebian Grip - this is not expected to be a problem because Grip packages are binary-compatible with the Debian version, just with some files removed from the package. (i.e. Grip is post-processed, not recompiled.) Grip typically comes in at ~600Mb for a full XFCE desktop and uses the Lenny debian-installer images. (Grip base system ~250Mb.) I'm currently running Emdebian Grip on my Acer Aspire1. More information: http://www.emdebian.org/grip/ Emdebian Crush 1.0 (lenny) -------------------------- The smallest Emdebian installation - cross-built from Debian sources. Architectures: arm only in 1.0 - more architectures (including moving from arm to armel) to be in Squeeze. Crush is the cross-built distribution from Emdebian - significant functional changes exist compared to the Debian package, libraries have been recompiled with options turned off and functionality removed etc. and Crush has dropped support for python or perl, and uses a modified, more recent version of busybox instead of coreutils. Crush is the hardest distribution to install, maintain and update and requires extensive customisation for particular machines with the benefit that it is an ultimately flexible Debian where the base system (equivalent to a debootstrap in Debian) can fit into 24Mb installed and a GPE GUI in 75Mb. uClibc support is expected in Crush 2.0 (squeeze), allowing sizes to shrink by another 10Mb or so. I'm currently running Emdebian Crush on my balloon3. More information: http://www.emdebian.org/crush/ -- Neil Williams ============= http://www.data-freedom.org/ http://www.nosoftwarepatents.com/ http://www.linux.codehelp.co.uk/
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