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Re: Debian Light Desktop - meta package



Hi!

On Wed, Jun 07, 2006 at 12:21:13PM +0200, Jérôme Warnier wrote:
> > (the graphics card is no more supported in XFree 4.x and there
> > no more supported in Sarge) to get it running.
> To my knowledge, at some point, the XFree86 Team treated the
> no-longer-existing-in-4.x drivers as bugs.

Thanks for that information, didn't knew that. Hope, that Xorg sees it
the same way -- that gives hope for old boxes. :-)

> They requested anybody who
> noticed that its graphics card worked with previous versions of XFree86
> but no longer with 4.x to submit a bug and it would be fixed.
> Are you sure your card is not simply managed by another driver now
> (split or merging of drivers)?

Well, regarding the newest XFree86 4.4, due to lack of driver
documentation, I'm not: http://www.xfree86.org/4.4.0/cirrus.4.html --
Same problem with the Xorg docs IIRC.

XFree86 says about 4.3 in http://www.xfree86.org/4.3.0/Status9.html#9:

---snip---
9. Cirrus Logic

3.3.6:

    Support (unaccelerated) for the 6410, 6412, 6420 and 6440 is
    provided by the XF86_SVGA server with the cl64xx driver. Support
    (accelerated) for the 5420, 5422, 5424, 5426, 5428, 5429, 5430,
    5434, 5436, 5446, 5480, 5462, 5464, 5465, 6205, 6215, 6225, 6235,
    7541, 7542, 7543, 7548, 7555 and 7556 is provided by the XF86_SVGA
    server with the cirrus driver.

4.3.0:

    Support (accelerated) for the Alpine (5430, 5434, 5436, 5446,
    5480, 7548), and Laguna (5462, 5464, 5465) chips is provided by
    the "cirrus" driver.

Summary:

    The following chips are supported in 3.3.6 but not in 4.3.0: 6410,
    6412, 6420, 6440, 5420, 5422, 5424, 5426, 5428, 5429, 6205, 6215,
    6225, 6235, 7541, 7542, 7543, 7555 and 7556.
---snap---

I have a laptop with a GD 7543 chip. And I won't throw away a working
laptop just because its graphics card isn't supported and can't be
exchanged either.

> [..]
> 
> > And then there are the real low end browsers like Dillo and the Links
> > family (links, links2, elinks, etc.) as well the pure text browsers as
> > lynx and w3m. But there you have to lower your sights regarding the
> > rendering quality respective rendering features (no CSS there, etc.).
> Dillo doesn't support CSS either, I think.
> 
> [..]
> 
> Most recent software also have more configuration items available, and
> you can often trim down their requirements using them.

Of course, you can tweak a configuration towards low Ressource
consupmtion, but you can't change the design principles a software is
built upon. And in case of Mozilla, Firefox and Thunderbird it's the
decision to render the UI with Gecko, too, which is to heavy for old
PCs and you can't change that. You only can change it by using
alternatives.

		Kind regards, Axel aka XTaran
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