On Sun, Apr 16, 2006 at 07:19:40PM +0200, Pierre HABOUZIT wrote:
> Give me a break. For one single package, it's already quite penible to
> use experimental (to avoid to pull every single experimental package,
> you have to edit your /etc/apt/preferences, and stuff like that), it's
> not imagineable that users will use experimental for that reason,
Yes, they do. It might be too complicated for you, oh Mighty Debian
Developer, but us mere mortals just follow the examples in
apt_preferences(5) and that works for us.
I installed X.org 7.0 from experimental on i386 about a week or two
before it was uploaded to unstable, and expect some minor adjustment it
worked just fine. I installed it on AMD64 after it was uploaded to
unstable, and apart from a missing package it worked just fine. In fact,
considering the dozens of packages affected, I expected _MUCH_ more
breakage than I actually encountered.
> because with the myriad of libraries that X comes with, either you pull
> all experimental (who is insane enough to only think of doing that ?)
Oh, so the Mighty Debian Developers consider Debian users who are
willing to test such big changes as the X transition insane? This is
just the attitude users LOVE about Debian Developers...
> or edit a 645-line long /etc/apt/preferences, which nobody will want
> to do either.
This was the line when I tought I can not resist replying to your mail.
If you show so much incompetence about the product you are supposed to
be developing in such a short sentence, then I'd seriously consider
giving up being a DD if I were you.
> I honnestly think things have been rushed[3] too much, as many of the
> problems that have been raised, could have been found, warned, or worked
> around in early packaging stages (meaning before an upload).
So, apart from the incompetence you showed, what are _YOUR_ excuses for
not testing the transition when it was still in experimental? And if you
did not do that, what are you complaining about?
Gabor
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