On Wed, Jan 18, 2006 at 12:36:12PM +0100, Gerfried Fuchs wrote: > * Thijs Kinkhorst <kink@squirrelmail.org> [2006-01-18 10:26]: > > Mr Zimmerman's reference to Kennedy is an excellent example of such a > > metaphorical construct. When Kennedy said that, there will undoubtedly > > have been people who uttered "Hey, he's not German! He's lying!". But > > luckily most people will have understood what he meant. > Then it's still Kennedy's problem, because he didn't claim something > for others. Perhaps you'd find the "We are all Americans" saying more on point. (http://www.worldpress.org/1101we_are_all_americans.htm) Can you take it to alt.usage.english or something instead though? FWIW, while I don't call myself an Ubuntu developer, I don't really have any problem with what Mark and others are saying -- they're trying to give appropriate acknowledgement that their work's built on ours, which, frankly I appreciate, and I think benefits Debian immensely. I wouldn't have any problem with saying Linus or Dave Miller are Debian developers in the sense meant by Mark and others, and I think it's a pretty cool property of free software development that they can and do contribute to Debian without having to actually use it themselves or even particularly care about it. Cheers, aj
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