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Re: Need for launchpad



On Sun, Jan 08, 2006 at 11:44:57AM +0100, Stephan Hermann wrote:
> On Sunday 08 January 2006 10:39, Andrew Suffield wrote:
> > On Sun, Jan 08, 2006 at 07:49:33PM +1100, Matthew Palmer wrote:
> > > On Sun, Jan 08, 2006 at 09:02:09AM +0100, Stephan Hermann wrote:
> > > > On Sunday 08 January 2006 07:27, Andrew Suffield wrote:
> > > > > On Fri, Jan 06, 2006 at 03:19:42PM -0500, Frans Jessop wrote:
> > > > > > Ubuntu's launchpad is amazing.  Do you think it would be helpful if
> > > > > > all DD's worked through it on their projects?  Wouldn't that keep
> > > > > > things more organized and efficient?  Or perhaps Debian could build
> > > > > > its own version of launchpad which is better.  Again, I think it
> > > > > > would do a good job keeping everything organized an efficient.
> > > > >
> > > > > The day when working on Debian requires the use of a web interface
> > > > > will be the day that I hunt down and painfully kill the person
> > > > > responsible for doing it.
> > > >
> > > > Luckily that the bts of Launchpad has a mailinterface..which is quite
> > > > nice. So some other parts will have mailinterfaces as well, and some
> > > > other goodies where someone can attach some nice cli tools.
> > >
> > > Which nobody except the Blessed Few (being those who have signed the NDA
> > > allowing them access to the Launchpad code) can modify or enhance.
> >
> > And even then have uncertain chances of getting it deployed into a
> > place where it's useful, and goodness knows how practical it would be
> > to do this anyway - the backend limitations could be anything.
> 
> Sure, but this applies to any software, actually the best example is the 
> kernel.

No it doesn't. I can change the kernel and eliminate any backend
limitations that offend me. I cannot do so with some external web
service. I can apply any changes I want to the kernel. I cannot apply
any changes to some web service, I can only beg the owners to do it if
they feel like it.

These problems are the very ones which free software *solves*. They're
a big part of the reason why most of us are here.

> Therefore, a lot of people never learned the advantages of cli, and more 
> people don't want to learn them. Why? I don't know, and it doesn't matter. 
> But, even those people we have to reach with an easy to use interface, and if 
> this means: webapplications, so be it. It doesn't mean, that I or you have to 
> use it

The point which you are arguing in favour of is that I be forced to
use it. Otherwise you don't appear to *have* a point, since that's
what we're talking about.

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