> I use both of these and would like to adopt them. I will upload next > week (via Anibal). I think they are no longer maintained upstream. Take a look at http://www.icewm.org/FAQ/IceWM-FAQ-11.html#tools4icewm for more modern and supported alternatives. Greetings Ben -- Please do not sent any email to the ben-ml@gmx.net - all email not originating from the mailing list will be deleted automatically. Use the reply to address instead.