Re: Bits (Nybbles?) from the Vancouver release team meeting
* Julien BLACHE
(I'm not an employee of canonical, but I am a Ubuntu developer, FTR.)
| How could we know ? We know nothing about Ubuntu, nothing about
| Canonical, nothing about the goals, nothing about how everything was
| done to begin with, nothing about who works or doesn't work there.
That, sir, would be entirely the fault of yourself. It's three clicks
from the front page of canonical.com what the goals of Ubuntu is.
It's well documented on the www.ubuntu.com pages. About who works or
doesn't work there, well, though it's not secret, it's not like the
company roster is publically available. A lot of the names should be
easy to pick out, though.
| Everything was done with the exact same secret used for this plan. And
| nobody cared enough to write up a proper announcement for Debian
http://lists.debian.org/debian-custom/2004/07/msg00091.html (The same
message was also posted to -devel). It was reported in the Debian
I don't think accusing the Ubuntu developers of hiding information is
fair. I don't think most Debian developers would be happy if the
Ubuntu developers forced more information down their throats -- just
look at how unhappy people got by jdub posting his «ubuntu blog
updates» to a feed which ended up on planet debian.
| How are we supposed to trust you ? I certainly can't until this is
You can look at the processes as documented on the Ubuntu web site.
There's not much we can do to make you trust us, saying «please trust
us, we're nice» is a no-op. You can look at what the Ubuntu
developers are doing and make your own judgements. Ask on the lists,
ask on IRC. I don't think posting Ubuntu material to Debian lists is
in any way appropriate.
Tollef Fog Heen ,''`.
UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are : :' :