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Re: NEW queue and ftp-master approval



On Mon, Jan 24, 2005 at 10:28:25PM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
> Bartosz Fenski aka fEnIo <fenio@debian.org> writes:
> 
> > Hello.
> >
> > Our NEW queue is quite big and time needed to get package into unstable is
> > rather long. Nothing wrong with that for me, I know that ftp-masters are 
> > busy and that approving these packages is very important and responsible 
> > task.
> >
> > But there are two kind of packages in NEW queue. 
> >
> > "Totally" new packages and old one that only incorporate new binary 
> > package(s). These old packages has already source package in archive.
> >
> > I think the latter should be handled first, and then if ftp-master has
> > some spare time he/she could handle totally new packages.
> 
> I think ftp-master already has a more complex prioritizing than
> that. Adding a new kernel images deb tends to be real fast (with
> exceptions), adding a new deb to old source reasonable fast and
> completly new source can take forever if questionable (e.g. mplyer).
> 
> > Any comments on that?
> 
> Why is manual intervention needed at all?
> 
> On a recent discussion about this on irc several things were said that
> have to be done for NEW packages, e.g. inform some U.S. government
> agency about the new deb, add an override entry into the db. The only
> thing that wasn't easily scriptable was:
> 
> ftp-master might reject the new package name
> 
> 
> Someone said ftp-master might want to check the source for the NEW deb
> but that would apply to any source upload just as well IMHO. Debian
> already trusts DDs to not mess up existing debs so it should be simple
> to trust them not to mess up when splitting debs or adding more to an
> existing source.
> 
> 
> Overall, in my eyes, the question becomes: Does Debian trust DDs not
> to add debs with silly names to existing sources?

I think we should add a deparment of silly walks and 
a department of silly names for packages! Hopefully Mr. Cleese could
head it!  Vim is now called vim-vim-voo-voo-vee.
-Kev


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