Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor
El Miércoles 01 Diciembre 2004 18:01, Michelle Konzack escribió:
> Am 2004-12-01 12:30:11, schrieb Cesar Martinez Izquierdo:
> > IMHO, we really can't exclude all the programs that *MAY BE* illegal in
> > some country. We should only exclude when there is an actual legal
> > threaten.
> Nudity and pornographi is illegalö in more the 80 countries
> and this you tell "some" ?
> Only the possession without installing it is already punishable.
> So if someon can download the CD and can has a domage on his/her
> health and live then we should not include this Package in Debian.
Hi, Michelle. I didn't know that women situation was so bad in Iran. I'm
really sorry about that.
Nevertheless, I was speaking about problems for Debian, and you are speaking
about problems for the user.
I think we can't really avoid all the problems Debian can cause to the user;
the user has to decide if he/she can use Debian in his/her country or not.
We only should avoid legal problems for Debian project, and they should be an
actual legal threaten for Debian. And I will explain why: if we try to avoid
all the possible legal problems for the project and for the user, we will
need to stop packaging Debian at all. Really. I'm not exaggerating, if we
really start to care about legal concerns on each package, we will not able
to package any program.
Anyway, as it seems that this is a really big problems for some countries, we
should really consider to work in an framework that provides easy ways of
creating personalised Debian CDs, this way we can produce a suitable CD for
For example, volunteers can create jigdo profiles suitable for their country,
and Debian would build these images and make them available. (Note: I have
never used jigdo, but I guess it can work this way).
> > Otherwise, I'm quite sure I can find a country where each package is not
> > legal, and I can start to send concerns to Debian legal, and in some
> > months we can stop packaging Debian...
> > I don't see why we need to do so, if the data is DSFG free.
> > The program is intended to include THAT set of images, and not a
> > different one, at least for the moment.
> > Have you find those images? I find them quite artistical.
> And exhibitioning of naked women only is discrimination...
I agree, in a general context. But this program includes *these* images,
probably because the artist works for fun and he/she wanted to draw *these*
images. You can't force him/her to include them.
If you provide a set of men images, the Debian maintainer will include them in
the package (he has already stated this).
And probably, I will find them artistic too, and maybe erotic.
I can volunteer to provide some naked photos of myself, but I guess they will
be more suitable for section "fun" than section "erotic".