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Re: -= PROPOSAL =- Release sarge with amd64



Wouter Verhelst <wouter@grep.be> writes:

> On Fri, Jul 16, 2004 at 06:12:07PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
>> The common element being the problem group and not me.
>
> Pointing fingers is an easy way to dismiss a problem, but not the best.
> Seen from the other side of the story, there's a "problem group" around
> you and a few others; James Troup, Ryan Murray, and most of the
> so-called "cabal" members can (and do!) communicate with most people in
> the Project, but not with you. Likewise, you can (and do!) communicate
> with many people, but not with some people in key positions in the
> project.
>
> The problem isn't them. It isn't you either. The problem is with both of
> you, with the bad air that's living between you.

That is a solid argument.

But for key positions problems should be considerd by merrit and not
by reporter. I don't see that happening.

> Stop pointing at the other group's problems; you can't fix those anyway.
> Stop yelling out at eachother, because it isn't getting you anywhere --
> surely you've seen that by now. Instead, try to fix your own personality
> bugs (and that isn't just to you personally).
>
> ``Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of
> thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?''

I'm not doing a (or in fact several) key position in Debian that need
good communications skils and I never want to (because I know I don't
have those skills).

MfG
        Goswin



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