On Sat, Feb 21, 2004 at 04:33:41PM +0100, Enrico Zini wrote: > Although I'm not contrary to the announced disciplinary sanction, I find > the tone of the announcement disturbing. > I consider messages styled like "Daddy caught you with a finger in the > jam" cute and funny in communities where the audience is a small group > of friends; much less so on a stage, in front of a public of a thousand > people and more. And what is your impression when someone takes an internal dispute being discussed among a mere thousand developers, and forwards it to an announcement list with tens of thousands of subscribers for no apparent reason? > A simple "The account xxx has been suspended following event yyy > according to policy zzz" would have done the job just as fine, but > without disrespect for the people involved. You would rather that Bastian's account were suspended, instead of AJ commenting on how this act could be interpreted as grounds for suspension? -- Steve Langasek postmodern programmer > > > Ciao, > > Enrico > > -- > GPG key: 1024D/797EBFAB 2000-12-05 Enrico Zini <enrico@debian.org> > X-Original-To: zinie@cs.unibo.it > Old-Return-Path: <aj@azure.humbug.org.au> > X-Original-To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org > Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 00:55:16 +1000 > To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org > Cc: waldi@debian.org > Subject: Re: serious problems with Mr. Troup > Mail-Followup-To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, waldi@debian.org > Organisation: Lacking > X-PGP: http://azure.humbug.org.au/~aj/aj_key.asc > X-No-CC: Don't Cc me to mailing list posts unless you really have to > Mail-Copies-To: nobody > From: Anthony Towns <aj@azure.humbug.org.au> > Resent-Message-ID: <vhjr-C.A.aWE.gH3NAB@murphy> > Resent-From: debian-devel@lists.debian.org > Resent-Sender: debian-devel-request@lists.debian.org > Resent-Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2004 08:57:37 -0600 (CST) > X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-18.0 required=7.5 > tests=IN_REP_TO,PGP_SIGNATURE_2,REFERENCES,SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE, > SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,USER_AGENT,USER_AGENT_MUTT,X_LOOP, > X_MAILING_LIST > version=2.41 > X-Spam-Level: > > On Sat, Feb 21, 2004 at 03:04:39PM +0100, Ingo Juergensmann wrote: > ...a mail that appeared via debian-devel-announce. > > How odd. That's a developers only list and Ingo's no developer. Who was > it signed by? > > [-- PGP output follows (current time: Sun Feb 22 00:49:39 2004) --] > gpg: Signature made Sun Feb 22 00:04:39 2004 EST using DSA key ID 7F4E0E11 > gpg: Good signature from "Bastian Blank <bastianb@gmx.de>" > gpg: aka "Bastian Blank <waldi_@gmx.de>" > ... > > Ahh. From the DMUP: > > ] Examples of what we consider net abuse: > ] * Forged headers and / or Addresses > ] > ] Forging headers or messages means sending mail such that its origin > ] appears to be another user or machine, or a non-existent machine. > > ] * Penalties > ] If someone violates the rules set in this document he will be subjected > ] to a penalty. The penalty depends on the number of previous violations > ] and the offense involved. > ] > ] 1. First offense > ] 1. The accounts of the offender will be suspended and access > ] will not be available. > > Complaints are completely off topic for announcement lists. WTF were you > thinking? > > Cheers, > aj > > -- > Anthony Towns <aj@humbug.org.au> <http://azure.humbug.org.au/~aj/> > I don't speak for anyone save myself. GPG signed mail preferred. > > Linux.conf.au 2004 -- Because we could. > http://conf.linux.org.au/ -- Jan 12-17, 2004
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