Re: The term "Custom Debian Distribution" (Was Re: [custom] The term "flavor" and encouraging work on Debian)
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On 2003-12-05 16:43, Andreas Tille wrote:
> On Fri, 5 Dec 2003, Benj. Mako Hill wrote:
> > More importantly, Skolelinux has done more than almost any CDD in
> > terms of contributing back to Debian in both code and in
> > methodology. Their method of submitting wishlist bug reports with low
> > priority debconf questions is IMHO the most important way that CDDs
> > can integreate their work into Debian proper and that CDDs can
> That's why I feeled obliged to add the remark that I greatly appreciate
> the work of the SkoleLinux people and that they probably did more for
> Debian than any CDD is out of any question.
In the above sentence you seem to refer to Skolelinux as a CDD , yet from
you're other replies it would seem you see them as a Debian-derivative.
This seems inconsistent (am I misintepreting something here?)
> IMHO the key feature is
> that SkoleLinux is not yet visible once you install plain Debian neither
> in tasksel nor in the form of metapackages (I do not mind whether they
> adopt edu-* name space or just use their own),
a task-package does not a CDD make, that is but the first step selecting the
packages to be installed, you also need to do the necessary configuration
for your target group (debconf preseeding is not yet the answer)
> Once SkoleLinux is for instance mentioned in tasksel (see
> #186085) I would call it CDD.
even with that task-package a part of Debian Skolelinux would not be a
debian-subset: one the packages needed to do the custom configuration can
never get into debian (as it overwrites configuration files of other
packages), this package however should become unnecesary once
debconf-preseeding covers all our needs.
- -> you again seem to contradict yourself (this same problem for configuration
applies for all CDD's at this point I think)
> To be a CDD or not is no question of honor - its a question of the
> placement related to Debian. Its really no shame to be no CDD (you might
> even have reasons to make the work better outside).
exactly, we seem to differ in opinion about at exactly what point the term
CDD is warranted (though we agree that some relation to Debian is required).
See my reply to Ben Armstrong's mail to see where I draw that line.
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