Re: Bug#163252: Example of really nasty DD behavior
On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 23:55:46 +0100, Duck <duck@duckcorp.org> said:
> Filip Van Raemdonck <mechanix@debian.org> wrote :
>> libxklavier & gswitchit packages are uploaded and waiting to be
>> added by ftp-master.
> This nasty behavior shows that being an officiel Debian developer
> does not mean quality.
Nasty behaviour, Why? because he ITP's and uploaded first?
> I was writing an ITP when you posted that and suddendly, saw all my
> work preparation turned into ashes.
So, you were planning on doing to him (and others) what
happened to you. Why do you expect sympathy?
The whole idea of an ITP is to do so _before_ you do any work.
> You did work on your own without any notice. May i remeber you the
> use of IPTs and RFPs ? These are tools to inform people about works
> to be done and work in progress in order to avoid duplicate work.
> As u did not fill any ITP nor informed anybody on this RFP, u did
> make me loose my time preparing for doing this packaging.
Oj, Jesus. Have you read the above as you wrote it? Did you
follow any of this? What makes you so special that you can ITP late,
but other people should inform you in advance?
> Moreover, while you were running to be the first guy to upload a
> package, you forgot that working hand in hand with the upstream
> author is the best way to produce a work of good quality. I did
> contact him, but you didn't.
I generally contact upstream _afterwards_, when I can show him
a package to look at, and not just vapourware. I certainly would not
speak before I even did an ITP.
> Another thing, someone had already packaged this program (see web
> site); he is not a Debian developer and has not enought time to
> become one. But he has done an interresting job and you could have
> contacted him and ask him gently if he was interrested in entering
> the maintainer process (because he could have made this package to
> be prepared and then propose it into Debian). You could have some
> respect for his work, even if he is not a DD. I did contact him,
> but you didn't.
Umm, I would call that harassment. If he knew enough about
Debian to make a .deb package, he knows enough to know how to
join, but has decided, for whatever reasons, to not do so. You should
respect that decision, and not badger people into joining the project.
> I'm informing these two persons about the situation, because i'm
> sure u do not have a second for such social activities.
Ah. Tattling, are we?
> Thx for remebering you're not alone in the world...
Next time, remember to ITP _before_ you do any work.
manoj
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