Re: [desktop] Seeking Summit to Discuss X Display and Session Management
On Tue, Nov 12, 2002 at 05:28:54AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
> [Please mind the To/CC lines in your replies; debian-x sees mail sent
> to the bugnumber. I'm not subscribed to any of the lists in my CC
> line. Except for -devel, of course.]
I blindly followed what M-F-T said. Dunno if that was the intention.
> However, since you're not the only person who is apparently
> aggravated out of his mind with the current approach, perhaps the
> best thing to do is to arrange a summit among all the package
> maintainers of desktop evironments and display managers in Debian
> (maybe a few window manager maintainers, too).
Hmm... looking at the bug and the proposed patch, Osamu's problem
seems to be that he wants to make a session-manager-less session the
default on the system (that is, REALSTARTUP ends up being
x-window-manager _even_ if x-session-manager exists). Sounds a lot
like local configuration policy being forced upon every Debian
> I am annoyed that at least some of the other display managers (gdm,
> kdm, wdm) do not use /etc/X11/Xsession by default, which leads to an
> inconsistent user experience.
I am probably to blame for this. Back when I was maintaining wdm I
remember there was some silly thing regarding the list of window
managers in the window manager selection box which was implemented by
some hack in a copy of the default Xsession script. Since then
Xsession has been split in lots of little tiny bits (and that's A Good
Thing(TM)). I don't know what wdm is doing nowadays, but if it isn't
using the default Xsession script for some reason, the problem should
> So, shall we all get together on IRC sometime and hash this out, so
> that we can have something that everyone is happier with for the
> sarge release?
Just name an OPN channel and a date, and I'll see if I can make it
there. My network connection nowadays sucks, but I can try...