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Re: Bug#97671: 88 Priority violations in woody



On Wed, May 01, 2002 at 08:29:29PM +0200, Santiago Vila wrote:
> > > The current system gives the user the freedom to install the package from
> > > incoming.debian.org (if it's not a crypto package). If we delayed the
> > > closing message, users would not have that freedom.
> >
> > I really don't follow. Does the current message tell the user to get stuff
> > from http://incoming.debian.org/, and if not, why not?
> 
> It does not mention incoming, but messages from katie are not the
> only possible way a user may know about incoming.

But couldn't those that know about incoming could also know about
debian-devel-changes?

> > If not, how would delaying closing messages until mirror run time in any
> > way stop the user who knew about the incoming (queue/accepted) directory
> > availability from getting their packages right that instant?
> 
> The point is that early notifications means:
> 
> a) Same availability for people who do not know about incoming.

And confusion as to where to actually find the fixed package(s).

> b) Early availability for people who know about incoming.
> 
> If you mean we should make an advertising campaign about the existence
> of incoming, well, yes, we probably should.

My point is that from the closing-message-receiver standpoint, a message
that tells them "The bug is fixed somewhere." is not nearly as useful as
"The bug is fixed somewhere and that somewhere is <URL:here>.".

As it has been said before, the queueing problems in the BTS are no longer a
reason not to send announcements in a batch. It's now mainly a procedural
issue. I would prefer if we gave the submitters more exact information if we
attempt to do it in the most timely manner; otherwise, provide them with the
exact information when it is more convenient (later).

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