Re: RFC: new task-science package
Ralf, (and Yosip from private mail)
On Sat, Dec 09, 2000 at 10:12:21AM +0100, Ralf Treinen wrote:
> I'd rather like to see it called "task-numerical" or "task-numcalc"
> or something like this. As the description says the package is about
Fully agreed -- that was my exact sentiment when Andreas first come out with
his initial task-science (without any discussion about it IIRC) which I
found somewhat ill-conceived.
One operational issue now is how we are going to get rid off the lingering
task-science package if we decide to go with task-numerical-analysis
(octave, yorick, ...) and task-data-analysis (r-base, pspp, xlispstat,
gretl, ...). Plus maybe task-numerical-programming (fftw2, libgsl, lapack |
blas | atlas2, ....) ?
> scientific computing, data analysis, etc. "Science" would be much
> more comprehensive and should include tools like theorem provers
> (packages mona, coq) and there are certainly simulation tools for
> physics, neural nets, biology, chemics, etc. (though I'm not aware
Stephane is a computational biologists and had in the past suggested
something for biology. John Lapeyre had packages a lot of physics stuff
which is still around, even though he had to move on.
Let's see where this discussion takes us -- replacing task-science with
task-numerical-analysis and task-data-analysis is surely a possibility.
Maybe even task-plotting though I am not sure if grouping gnuplot, plotmtv,
grave, plplot, plotutils really gains anything coherent.
> of any actual packages in debian).
> > I recently took over task-science. Below is the current draft -- I'd welcome
> > comments and suggestions about what to include or exclude. I removed some
> > packages which were IMHO too esoteric, or which were libraries only (though
> > I might one day place them back into a new `task-science-dev') and added a
> > few others. While I used Avery's popularity-contest pages as a guide of what
> > is actually being used, I recognise that such a selection will always be
> > subjective. Any feedback?
> > Thanks, Dirk
> > new debian package, version 2.0.
> > size 2606 bytes: control archive= 709 bytes.
> > 570 bytes, 13 lines control
> > 273 bytes, 8 lines * postinst #!/bin/sh
> > 202 bytes, 6 lines * prerm #!/bin/sh
> > Package: task-science
> > Version: 0.3
> > Section: science
> > Priority: optional
> > Architecture: all
> > Depends: gnuplot, grace, pdl, octave2.0 | octave2.1, plotutils, r-base, yorick
> > Installed-Size: 11
> > Maintainer: Dirk Eddelbuettel <email@example.com>
> > Description: Packages for numerical computing, data analysis and visualization
> > The task-science meta-package contains dependencies on packages which are
> > suitable for scientific work. Under a fairly loose definition of
> > 'scientific', this includes numerical analysis and computing, statistical
> > data analysis as well as visualization.
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