Re: "Visual" IDE?
I believe the `Cygnus Foundry', by Cygnus, is a
UNIX-based IDE - not certain, though. But like
most commercial UNIX software, it costs a pretty
penny.
-c
SEGV> I'm sitting here looking at my unused copy of Visual Studio 5.0 for
> Windows, and thinking of the pathetic UNIX IDEs I have used in the past
> two years.
>
> - SparcWorks on Solaris
> - Softbench on HP-UX
> - ladebug etc. on Digital UNIX
>
> Even XEmacs with Sparcworks integration doesn't do it for me. So
> basically I use XEmacs to edit my source and make files, and the command
> line to compile. I debug with whatever debugger is best for the platform
> I am using that day.
>
> I understand that Visual Studio was created for the lowest common
> denominator (that's a fact, not an opinion), and that UNIX programmers
> are more comfortable with makefiles and command lines. But you have to
> admit that Visual Studio, and Metrowerks Codewarrior, are great IDEs.
>
> My question is, "Why is there nothing similar on UNIX?"
>
> Perhaps I simply haven't stumbled over it yet. But the development tools
> Sun, HP, etc. sell are the most hacked together things I've ever seen.
> The crippled widgets don't even cut/paste properly, the layout is
> atrocious, the GUI is nothing more than a debugging shell with renamed
> buttons for its functions, etc.
>
> Even the free tools are not much better. Perhaps that's because they are
> volunteer efforts. [But then why can't Sun do better?] Perhaps it's
> because everyone's read "No Silver Bullet" and moved on to the
> "essential" tasks of development, leaving the "accidental" tasks like
> IDE behind.
>
> If I'm missing out on an excellent free/commercial IDE, please let me
> know. If not, why can't one be built? Make a clone of Visual Studio,
> fixing its annoyances at the same time. Make it fully graphical for the
> neophyte developer, but unleash the power beneath for the scripting
> guru. Build it out of standard components: GNU compilers, make, CVS,
> etc. Use the GTK toolkit, eventually provide a visual GUI editor.
>
> Does this sound farfetched? Maybe, maybe not. I'm just trying to feel
> this idea out. Is there a project like this going on now? If not, is
> this an idea whose time has come?
>
> Please feel free to email me with any thoughts on this. Thank you for
> your time.
>
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