Carey, To let you know, I have the thing working. in the pap-secrets, my problem was the line below. Changed os to the server name.. and voila. > > > > * os "" > > Anyhow, thanks for you help on this one. btw, have you upgraded to 2.0.31 and seen if ppp is still safe?? checking... thanks, -Frank -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to firstname.lastname@example.org . Trouble? e-mail to email@example.com .