I think its clear that: o We don't all agree on this issue o We aren't going to change eachother's minds o To a large extent, this issue is external to the Debian project o To the extent to which it is internal, a policy decision has already been made o Its Richard's Foundation and their software.. he can do whatever he likes with it If its such a big deal, switch to vi and run off of BSD Lite sources. Lets give this thread a rest. Oly