Re: kfreebsd-9 in experimental?
Am 15.06.2011, 21:52 Uhr, schrieb Axel Beckert <email@example.com>:
Darko Hojnik wrote:
Am 15.06.2011, 19:51 Uhr, schrieb Robert Millan <firstname.lastname@example.org>:
> Would this be a good time to put kfreebsd-9 in experimental?
I don't think so. They is more then enough to do with the kfreebsd 8.
Arno told me at the last Linuxday, he is working on iSCSI.
That's no argument against the fact that _others_ work on kfreebsd-9.
The debian-installer for KfreeBSD should be radical rewritten.
That's the first time I hear about this.
And Jails should be implemented.
I think, keeping up with upstream is more important that making single
(I though don't know the answer to Robert's question.)
Also needs the FreeBSD project needs manpower to fix VIMAGE
We are not the FreeBSD project. So that shouldn't be relevant either.
and to develop resource-limitations for Jails.
Sounds to me like a subfeature of a feature.
Please tell me what makes KfreeBSD for you interesting to use? What does
KfreeBSD to makes the World a little bit better? It's a philosophical
So for me it's not interesting to deploy it on a Desktop. Because
FreeBSD/KfreeBSD leaks on support with mainstream-consumer like hardware.
Accept it because it is like is. The Slogan of FreeBSD is the power to
serve... Thats the real focus of FreeBSD. On a server FreeBSD is in many
cases better then Linux. And Debian GNU KfreeBSD is the logical pragmatic
way to simplifying the Power of the FreeBSD-Kernel with an good
As an example Netapp is for storage one of the well known backbones on the
cloud. Would it be not better for the world if Debian kFreeBSD would takes
this part? Both has got the same kernel. Typical Desktops and Workstations
of today begins to be outdated. And within ten years they will haves no
future anymore. And that would be great! Everything in the Cloud usable on
demand just in time!
But the clock ticks and ticks...
Debian and all another opensource-projects has to realize whats currently
happen. I think they haves a good chance to win this game. If it will be
lost then it will lost everything. Democracy and generally every Freedom
not on Software only, on every part of life would be controlled on some
My self is using more then 10 years Debian. Some years ago I could every
day say that debian ships mass with class. But in some cases currently
it's mass only instead class...
I think it will be nice if this project would set more focus on quality.
The Debian-installer supports only a basic install on ZFS. They is no
support to install it on subvolumes. Also to handle compression, DEDUP and
other features of ZFS. So you have still to choose debootstrap for an
install in a datacenter.
If you are hacking on the FreeBSD kernel so also you hack for an better
KfreeBSD too. Don't take everything only, give something back. Debian is
I'm looking very interested on this project. But I see very much open
problems. Why merge unnecessary stuff they will need to much time to solve
currently not present problems?