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(summary?) Re: [RFC] Support for using multiple CDs during installation



Quoting Frans Pop (elendil@planet.nl):
> Your mail seriously put me off for a few days, so I've given myself some 
> extra time to think about it.


I went through all this discussion as I feel pretty important to get
this issue solved and decided.

May I attempt to summarize how I see the "dispute" here? And then give
my personal advice, based on this interpretation.

Frans' proposal adds an extra question when doing CD installs, to
prompt users whether they want to use another CD or not. This, even if
they did choose a network mirror before.

Joeyh's argument is being reluctant to extra questions and decide that
users who did choose a network mirror will, by definition, not want to
use extra CDs. He therefore proposes to partly "hide" the decision of
scanning extra CD's in the question about network mirror. If users did
choose a network mirror, then don't prompt them about extra CDs.

This main point brings in the way we want to support users without
broadband available when they install a Debian system.

From Frans' rationale, we should always give them the opportunity to
bring in extra packages from additionnal CDs. From Joeyh's one,
they've answered the question themselves when choosing a network
mirror.

From my personal experience of contact with various users and all
exchanges I had up to now all around the world, I tend to prefer the
deal of adding an extra question but giving much more flexibility to
our users (see Holger's or Praveen's points).

So, with all respect I have for the reluctance to add extra questions
to defaults installs (imho, Joeyh's strong stance on this...as well as
Frans' one when he acted as RM, has always kept D-I as "clean" as
possible), I tend to favourize (en?) Frans approach, here.

My main reason for this is also that I think that much users will
*always* choose a mirror even when they don't have broadband (or don't
want to use it: think about corporate networks where using the
Internet connections for installing systems is considered harmful even
if that connection is broadband). So, actually pre-deciding that if
they do so, they don't want to use extra CDs, is indeed an incorrect
interpretation of the average user's behaviour wrt questions asked.


As a conclusion, I really would like to see Frans proposal
implemented. The plan he proposed seems right to me.




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