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Re: gtk d-i : using size instead of "shape" to differentiate text



Eduardo Silva wrote:

--- Attilio Fiandrotti <attilio.fiandrotti@gmail.com>
wrote:


Eduardo Silva wrote:

Hi everybody, In gtk d-i, wouldn't it be better to use size to
differentiate the "sections of text", instead of

using

diffent "shapes"(bold, italic, regular)?

Currently, all the text has the same size, and are
differentiated like this (ordered by importance):

"Step" title - bold
Question - regular
Options/Text Entry title - italic
Question description - regular

What I sugest would be (assuming the Next/Go Back

text

size is now at 10 px):

"Step" title - 12 px
Question - 11 px
Options/Text Entry title- 10 px
Question description - 9 px. If it makes the

interface

too confusing (too many sizes), then 10 px.

Of course, the diferences in size could be

greater,

for example, the "Step" title could be 2 pixels

bigger

than the question, and the Question 2 pixels

bigger

than the Options/Text Entry title. It would only
depend on the maximum amount of text that there

could

exist on-screen at the minimum resolution

possible.

The reasons I ordered the sizes this way are:

Step title: a user shouldn't loose himself in what
part of the instalation he is in :) ;
Question: a user must then know what is being
requested/asked of him;
Options/Text Entry title: a user must then know

his

available options, or what he must type exactly in

the

text entry;
Question description: after getting the previous
three, the user can read a semi-detailed

description

of what is being requested/asked of him. New users
would read them anyway, but users which install

many

times debian, or have been using debian in the

past,

or are advanced users, etc., will know by heart or
understand imediately what each question is about,

and

will disregard it.

An example (not the best, because has little text)

of

how doing this improves the readability of an
interface, see for example this gdm theme for

etch:

http://cdd.debian-br.org/~si0ux/artwork/debian/01/01gdm.png

The title "Welcome" is the first thing grabing
atention, then the Text entry title "Username".

I agree that weigth, size and style of text used for
title, question description and extended question description should not be hardcoded in the GTK frontend, like it happens now, butexternally defined in the gtkrc file.
I don't know if this is possible (i'd like to define
css-like styles in gtkrc), but for sure it's something that is worth
investigating.
Eduardo, btw, do you think you can update the "!"
and "X" icons you created some times ago to match the look of clearlooks theme we're now using in the g-i?

Thanks

Attilio


Yes :) I think that the creator of the current look,
Andre Ferreira, may be wanting to do that as well, but
I think the more icons done, the better :)

I guess you're talking about these icons, right?

http://wiki.debian.org/DebianDesktopArtwork/DebianInstallerEtch

Cheers

Attilio



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