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Re: Bug#396365: please add a gdb .udeb, for easier debugging inside d-i



On Friday 03 November 2006 23:51, Sven Luther wrote:
> Bah, i can commit to debian-cd, and now that i know about this fact, if
> ever a .udeb i asked is out there, i will naturally add it to the
> blacklist.

No, sorry that was not the intention. Having everybody committing 
uncoordinated changes to debian-cd is also not the answer.
Why do you think there is someone like a release manager for d-i? It is 
because interactions are complex and changes often need coordinating and 
correct timing.
I'm perfectly happy to make the changes. I just need to know that there 
are things that need changes. And the way I know that is by people 
discussing and announcing things on the list.

> Also, there may be another future for .udebs out there than just for
> d-i use, altough i know the d-i folk doesn't like this :)

For now, and until it is decided differently by the d-i team and 
ftp-masters, the debian-installer section is for exclusive use by 
debian-installer and the d-i team has complete control and veto power 
over what goes in there.
I've seen the smiley, but I don't think that is appropriate. Please don't 
joke about such matters, just accept the facts and act in accordance with 
them.

If there is a serious other use for udebs, we need to discuss that and 
discuss how to implement it in the archive first. I've seen some 
suggestions, but so far no serious plans.

Basic message: we do _not_ want rogue udebs out there. My earlier request 
stands: do not request new udebs without discussing them on the list 
first; not for d-i and not for any other usage.

I think we've discussed this three or four times now. Why is it so 
difficult to simply accept such facts?

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