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Package: installation-reports
Debian-installer-version: RC2, from ftp.debian.nl
uname -a: Linux serf 2.4.27-1-386 #1 Fri Sep 3 06:24:46 UTC 2004 i686
GNU/Linux
Date: 2004-11-30, 23:00h
Method: Booted off CD, installed from ftp://mirror.switch.ch/mirror/debian/
, no proxy.
Machine: Desktop, IBM IBM-PC-300PL-6862-N40
Processor: Intel Piii/500 Katmai
Memory: 384MB
Root Device: IDE, /dev/hdb1
Root Size/partition table: root = ~ 3GB, swap = 500+400MB on hda7 and hdb5
Output of lspci and lspci -n:
0000:00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 440BX/ZX/DX - 82443BX/ZX/DX Host
bridge (rev 03)
0000:00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 440BX/ZX/DX - 82443BX/ZX/DX AGP bridge
(rev 03)
0000:00:02.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ISA (rev 02)
0000:00:02.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 IDE (rev 01)
0000:00:02.2 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 USB (rev 01)
0000:00:02.3 Bridge: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ACPI (rev 02)
0000:00:03.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corp. 82557/8/9 [Ethernet Pro 100]
(rev 05)
0000:00:14.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10)
0000:01:01.0 VGA compatible controller: S3 Inc. Trio 64 3D (rev 01)
0000:00:00.0 0600: 8086:7190 (rev 03)
0000:00:01.0 0604: 8086:7191 (rev 03)
0000:00:02.0 0601: 8086:7110 (rev 02)
0000:00:02.1 0101: 8086:7111 (rev 01)
0000:00:02.2 0c03: 8086:7112 (rev 01)
0000:00:02.3 0680: 8086:7113 (rev 02)
0000:00:03.0 0200: 8086:1229 (rev 05)
0000:00:14.0 0200: 10ec:8139 (rev 10)
0000:01:01.0 0300: 5333:8904 (rev 01)
Base System Installation Checklist:
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it
Initial boot worked: [O]
Configure network HW: [O]
Config network: [O]
Detect CD: [O]
Load installer modules: [O]
Detect hard drives: [O]
Partition hard drives: [O]
Create file systems: [O]
Mount partitions: [O]
Install base system: [O]
Install boot loader: [O]
Reboot: [O]
Comments/Problems:
1) Could not install audio.
Only distro not installing sound out of 11 tried on this machine. The Woody
installer at http://www.phy.olemiss.edu/debian-cd/ did it with no sweating.
This card (Crystal 4237B chip, onboard) is run of the mill. In my view this
looks awfully bad.
2) Install document does not match scope of a normal desktop install.
My error (skipped a page) led to X being misconfigured. I noticed that while
D-I DOES INSTALL X, KDE, Gnome, the corresponding install document (
http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/en.i386/index.html ) stops at the base
install, and of course does not mention how to replay the install scripts
after the base install.
Considering that the installer DOES NOT STOP at the base system, it would be
awfully nice if
a - instructions on at least installing X and sound
were included in the install document itself;
b - commands were spelled out for retrying from a running machine
the same install scripts that pop up automatically in the installer.
For example, if tarzeau hadn't pointed me to "dpkg-reconfigure
xserver-xfree86" on IRC, I would NOT have found it in the documentation, and
I would probably had either retried a full install or drifted to a less
noble distro.
Very bad for marketing, especially considering
how awfully good hardware recognition has become these days.
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From: Christian Perrier <bubulle@debian.org>
To: filippo.cattaneo@alum.MIT.edu, 283831-done@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#283831: Package: installation-reports
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> Initial boot worked: [O]
> Configure network HW: [O]
> Config network: [O]
> Detect CD: [O]
> Load installer modules: [O]
> Detect hard drives: [O]
> Partition hard drives: [O]
> Create file systems: [O]
> Mount partitions: [O]
> Install base system: [O]
> Install boot loader: [O]
> Reboot: [O]
> Comments/Problems:
> 1) Could not install audio.
> Only distro not installing sound out of 11 tried on this machine. The =
Woody
> installer at http://www.phy.olemiss.edu/debian-cd/ did it with no swea=
ting.
> This card (Crystal 4237B chip, onboard) is run of the mill. In my view=
this
> looks awfully bad.
Out of Debian Installer scope. You didn't mention whether your card
was detected or not. I suppose it was and you were hit by other
problems in testing (the desktop task missing some package for sound supp=
ort).
Thank you for calling a few dozens volunteers work awful. We appreciate.
> 2) Install document does not match scope of a normal desktop install.
> My error (skipped a page) led to X being misconfigured. I noticed that =
while
> D-I DOES INSTALL X, KDE, Gnome, the corresponding install document (
No, d-i doesn't install X. The task selection process does. d-i's job
stops at the base system install. For other problems and mostly X
related problems, please turn towards other Debian teams.
> Considering that the installer DOES NOT STOP at the base system, it wou=
ld be
> awfully nice if
> a - instructions on at least installing X and sound
> were included in the install document itself;
> b - commands were spelled out for retrying from a running machine
> the same install scripts that pop up automatically in the installe=
r.
> For example, if tarzeau hadn't pointed me to "dpkg-reconfigure
> xserver-xfree86" on IRC, I would NOT have found it in the documentation=
, and
> I would probably had either retried a full install or drifted to a less
> noble distro.
> Very bad for marketing, especially considering
> how awfully good hardware recognition has become these days.
We are not marketroids. PC hardware is, contrary what you claim a bit
loud, still a giant mess of n'importe quoi. So, I'm already thrilled
that d-i is able to recognize so much flavours of everything hardware
manufacturers imagine to put in a machine.
About sound support, which seems awfully important for you, the
support for it in Linux has historically been a nice nightmare with
several way of doing it along kernel releases. So, having it be still
difficult to suppor tis not surprising at all.
Given that this install report is a complete success report, I do as
usual with successful install report=A0: I close the bug..:-)
This does not of course mean you weren't right to report. Knowing the
installations are correct is important for the d-i team.
Many thanks for yourtime testing the Debian Installer and reporting
your results, even if you made it in a manner I personnally judge
unfriendly. Have fun with your new Debian system!
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