FWIW, I'm in the process of adding some ugly hacks to hw-detect to make it fall back to tulip if the other module is not on the initrd. In that case it will also blacklist the de4x5 module to avoid discover1 loading it in the second stage, and will add tulip to /etc/modules. I think this should fix all the hppa problems while not having any effect on any arch does have de4x5 in udebs. A better fix in discover would be appreciated, since that's an ugly hack. Perhaps discover needs a way to override modules on an arch specific basis. -- see shy jo
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