Bug#237777: marked as done ([i386] [beta2] [netinst] success with comments)
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Package: installation-reports
Debian-installer-version: 13-Mar-2004
http://gluck.debian.org/cdimage/testing/sarge_d-i/i386/beta2/sarge-
i386-netinst.iso
uname -a: Linux gandalf 2.4.22-1-386
Date: 13-Mar-2004 1800-2100
Method: from CD (see above)
Base System Installation Checklist:
Initial boot worked: [O]
Configure network HW: [O]
Config network: [O]
Detect CD: [O]
Load installer modules: [O]
Detect hard drives: [O]
Partition hard drives: [O]
Create file systems: [O]
Mount partitions: [O]
Install base system: [O]
Install boot loader: [O]
Reboot: [O]
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it
Comments/Problems:
Debian Installer beta2 comments
Hello,
X means improvements can be done, rest are explanaitions what was done
I have an already installed HD in my computer as IDE1 slave
I had to install a new debian because of HD crash
I partitioned IDE1 master
X examples of partitions need to be given in the installation manual
X http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/en.i386/index.html chapter 7.2,
7.3
e.g I have finally used for my 120GB disk 100MB /, 5GB /usr, 110GB
/home,
3000 /var, 50MB /tmp, 1000 swap, all ext2 except /home ext3, it saves
1 hour surfing to find out useful partion schemes and for
unexperienced users
the switch to RedHat, Suse or whatwever
X in installation manual (see above) /boot is not mentioned but dring
the
installation process it appears (assigning names to partitions),
a very useful hint which shed some light for me on the / and /boot
issue I
found in the RedHat installation manual:
Caution
While partitioning your hard drive, keep in mind that the BIOS in some
older systems cannot access more than the first 1024 cylinders on a
hard
drive. If this is the case, leave enough room for the /boot Linux
partition
on the first 1024 cylinders of your hard drive to boot Linux. The
other Linux
partitions can be after cylinder 1024.
If your hard drive is more than 1024 cylinders, you may need to create
a
/boot partition if you want the /(root) partition to use all of the
remaining
space on your hard drive.
X a screen shot of the finalized partition table in cfdisk is needed so
nobody has
to surf the internet to find out why only four partitions can be used
(if you use
only primary), what needs to be bootable, swap,...
On screen:
[!!] Configure and mount partitions,
Select a partition:
X What is MiB and GiB??? You mean probably MB and GB
In the same list my already formatted IDE 1 slave is mentioned,
to avoid that it will be overwritten I selected 'Leave the file
system intact'
but in the lists looks afterwards exactly as the other partitions on
IDE1 master
selecting 'Finish' I get asked on the next screen:
'Ready to create file systems and mount partitions?'
at which point it was not clear to me if my formatted IDE1 slave will
survive,
I decided to switch off the computer deconnect the HD and start again
X If 'leave filesystem intact' is choosen it has to be explicitly
mentioned in the
X partitioins list to make clear that it will NOT be formatted (what is
hopefully
the case, didn't test to not risk my backup)
X no feedback during formatting, a hint at the beginning (if no proress
bar is
possible) that it might take some minutes would beuseful
X having the possibility to use GRUB instead of LILO would be nice
X no offer to make a boot floppy
X after reboot it was only possible to get via cancel out of the 'Apt
Configuration'
screen, seemed like an endless loop, but apparently all selections
are written
into sources.list, does really not become clear
Thanks a lot for the nice Debian and Keep up the good work!!!
Helge
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Subject: Re: Bug#237777: installation success (with comments)
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Hi,
first and foremost: thank you for your bug report.
I'm currently processing old installation reports, and have across=20
yours. Many thanks for all your feedback. It is much appreciated.
Much has changed with the installer since March, and I believe that all=20
your comments more or less have been dealt with since then, so I will=20
close this report now.
> examples of partitions need to be given in the installation manual
> http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/en.i386/index.html chapter 7.2, =20
> 7.3 e.g I have finally used for my 120GB disk 100MB /, 5GB /usr, 110GB =20
> /home, 3000 /var, 50MB /tmp, 1000 swap, all ext2 except /home ext3,=20
The partitioner of the current installer images handles this well. E.g.=20
new users are can choose to use the entire disk, and then it will be=20
suggested to them just to use a single partition for everything (which=20
is perfectly fine on most (desktop) installations, anyway).=20
> in installation manual (see above) /boot is not mentioned but dring
> the installation process it appears (assigning names to partitions), a =20
> very useful hint which shed some light for me on the / and /boot issue
> I found in the RedHat installation manual: Caution
> While partitioning your hard drive, keep in mind that the BIOS in some
> older systems cannot access more than the first 1024 cylinders
GRUB (which is the new default) does not have this limitation.
> a screen shot of the finalized partition table in cfdisk is needed so
> nobody has to surf the internet to find out why only four partitions
> can be used (if you use only primary), what needs to be bootable,
> swap,...=20
The average user should not need to do this. He/she should just follow=20
the partitioner's recommendations, which works well with the current=20
installer.
> On screen:
> [!!] Configure and mount partitions,
> Select a partition:
> What is MiB and GiB??? You mean probably MB and GB
With current images I don't see MiB/GiB, so this must have been dealt=20
with.
> In the same list my already formatted IDE 1 slave is mentioned,
> to avoid that it will be overwritten I selected 'Leave the file =20
> system intact' but in the lists looks afterwards exactly as the other
> partitions on IDE1 master selecting 'Finish' I get asked on the next
> screen: 'Ready to create file systems and mount partitions?'
> at which point it was not clear to me if my formatted IDE1 slave will
> survive, I decided to switch off the computer deconnect the HD and
> start again. If 'leave filesystem intact' is choosen it has to be=20
> explicitly mentioned partitioins list to make clear that it will NOT=20
> be formatted (what is hopefully the case, didn't test to not risk my=20
> backup)=20
I think the current partitioner makes it clear what will happen to your=20
data/partitions. Should to disagree and think that the text is still=20
not good enough with the current installer images, please open a new=20
bug report regaring this issue.
> no feedback during formatting, a hint at the beginning (if no proress=20
> bar is possible) that it might take some minutes would be useful
Current installer shows feedback.
> having the possibility to use GRUB instead of LILO would be nice
GRUB is default now, but LILO is still available (although only in=20
expert mode, unless my memory is off).
> no offer to make a boot floppy
I cannot verify this myself as I currentlt have no machine at hand with=20
a floppy drive, so I have informed the debian install team about this=20
(cloned this report as bug#260486 and retitled it as "not offered to=20
make a boot floppy").
> after reboot it was only possible to get via cancel out of the 'Apt =20
> Configuration' screen, seemed like an endless loop, but apparently all
> selections are written into sources.list, does really not become clear
I believe the current installer behaves as expected.
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