Minutes of Debian Installer IRC Meeting of 2004.07.17.2000 Dates and times are UTC-referenced. Venue: #debian-boot at irc.debian.org Meeting started at 20:00. There were 107 IRC nicknames present at the start time. The following people provided input to the meeting: (a few names are missing as I cannot retrieve them currently) anibal Anibal Monsalve Salazar anton Anton Zinoviev AstinusUK Alex Howells bdale Bdale Garbee Bill_Jennings Bill Jennings Dr_O fs Frederik Schueler GyrosGeier Simon Richter huhlig Hans W. Uhlig joeyh Joey Hess joshk Joshua Kwan kmuto Kenshi Muto kyllikki Vincent lieb Jim Lieb luther Sven Luther maswan Mattias Wadenstein Md Marco d'Itri mellum Falk Hueffner Mithrandir Tollef Fog Heen Q_ Kurt Roeckx seppy Dennis Stampfer SimonRichter Simon Richter SvenLuther Sven Luther vorlon Steve Langasek waldi Bastian Blank Apologies: aj Anthony Towns bubulle Christian Perrier calc Chris Cheney cjwatson Colin Watson dannf Dan Frazier doogie Adam Heath dsilvers Daniel Silverstone gaudenz Gaudezn Steiling fjp Frans Pop jbailey Jeff Bailey manti mckinstry Alastair McKinstry pere Petter Reinholdtsel tbm Martin Michlmayr ths Thiemo Seufer zboob Moderator: anibal Anibal Monsalve Salazar Discussion topics at: http://wiki.debian.net/index.cgi?DebianInstallerMeetings Meeting log: (please refer to the log to check who said what) http://people.debian.org/~joshk/d-i_meeting_20040717.log Next Release Date ================= joeyh suggested the end of the current month as next release date. There was no objection. Everybody would like to support 2.6 kernels. However there are some issues preventing that: * 2.4 is the only thing viable on sparc32 * US and Amiga seem to have issues with 2.6 as well * ia64 boot with 2.6 not ready yet * alpha won't be on 2.6 until until there's some sign of the PCI fixes making it into the kernel-images String Freeze ============= A string freeze on general principle, so that people don't go changing strings *after* everybody thinks they've got it all translated. There are many of translated but un-uploaded strings. To release by the end of the month, joeyh suggested a string freeze starting in the next few days. There were no objections. seppy will send the announcement to the translators. Architecture Status =================== alpha ----- vorlon said that alpha is in pretty solid shape; the two big outstanding issues for them are that automatic partitioning doesn't yet account for the space aboot needs, and that 2.4 kernel images in the archive are still in need of a major PCI fix. He estimates that it affects close to 1/4 of the alpha hardware. 2.6 hasn't been tried yet. amd64 ----- Q_ said that amd64 currently doesn't have a netinst image. He has been trying to get it working without much success. joeyh suggested Q_ to talk to manty. Q_ also said that they've also had some problems with changes in sid base. It seems to work for some people while others say it failed without much detail about why it failed. Some of those failures are explained by sid base breakage because we only have sid. arm --- kyllikki confirmed that there are no changes since last week when it was reported in good shape. hppa ---- jbailey has a hppa, and was hoping to test. bdale and AstinusUK offered to test hppa. i386 ---- joeyh reported that it seems to be in good shape. He also noted that the lowmem patch has bugs, and doesn't know if zboob will get it fixed in time. ia64 ---- lieb reported that they would like to get ia64 boot + 2.6 done before final release. He also said that ia64 efi partman patches were submitted this week. He's also re-writing the ia64 portions of the install manual. m68k ---- joeyh has got confirmation that the genext2fs bug is still there. Also, Florian Lohoff posted to -boot and reported the ext filesystem error problem on boot. Simon Richter will look after m68k/Amiga a bit. mips,mipsl ---------- joeyh said that someone reported on the list that the lowmem problem with mips seems to not be a problem now. powerpc ------- SvenLuther said that Powerpc is in pretty good shape. The real problem is that we really want 2.6 to be the default kernel on it, and this is right now problematic. He also said that he would make the 2.6 kernel the default, and have 2.4 as fallback (linux24). joeyh noted that at a minimum, he'll need to offer both, joeyh can't see dropping 2.4 with 2.6 as of yet unproven. SimonRichter APUS status: 2.4 doesn't boot, 2.6 doesn't build. However, both seem trivial. His plan is to get both issues fixed by tuesday. s390 ---- joeyh reported waldi and athornton are working on it. It mostly works first stage, still need ssh for second stage. waldi has done some work on ssh and it may be working in two weeks. sparc ----- joshk said the best news is that SILO has purportedly been fixed. Mail will be sent out to everyone who reported it failed. The the smp kernel problem joshk mentioned last time has been worked around. fs will test 2.6 on ultrasparc 1 smp. d-i automation ============== joshk: The dumb way is to create a fictitious debconf priority above critical, find a way to retrieve a debconf database and then raise priority to fictitious one. The elegance of the priority system (which, in the case of automation, could be considered a bug) is that if there's an error you'll return to interactive mode. Mithrandir: Why not just use a custom backend? Say, http backend, all answers are already seen, so they'll use the default answer. Change deconf.conf to use the http backend, basically. partman ======= anton: At present - many easy to fix bugs. The real impression will come when they are fixed. The coming week I will have enough time to work but mostly offline. I will try not do do string changes after tuesday. Meeting closed at 21:36. Anibal Monsalve Salazar -- .''`. Debian GNU/Linux | Building 28C : :' : Free Operating System | Monash University VIC 3800, Australia `. `' http://debian.org/ | http://www-personal.monash.edu/~anibal/ `- |
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