I just installed Sarge off the local mirror. Is there any point in installing ipchains? If you think it valuable for use with 2.4 kernels, how about with 2.6? -- Cheers John -- spambait 1aaaaaaa@computerdatasafe.com.au Z1aaaaaaa@computerdatasafe.com.au Tourist pics http://portgeographe.environmentaldisasters.cds.merseine.nu/