Re: woody installation script first impressions
On Mon, Jun 03, 2002 at 11:53:59PM +0800, Dan Jacobson wrote:
> Dan Jacobson reflects on his brush with the 8 debian woody CDs:
>
> When one installs from the CD's one is directed to www.debian.org for
> instructions from one of those installation screens... one might not
> notice that the instructions are right on disk... so the installation
> screen should mention it. Sorry to bring this up again.
>
> OK, I'm in install/doc/ch-preparing.en.html and it says to click
> .../current/md5sum.txt but that isn't found. No, I'm not really
> interested in seeing it, just wanted to inform you of a failed click
>
> Anyway, back to what one sees with the CDs: I see mention of hitting
> F3 for help on the first screen. Ok, I go there, but there is no
> comforting way back to that first screen.
>
> when one hits RET at "<continue>" it is quite disturbing to see some
> stuff flash by too fast ... one wonders how could they intentionally
> make me wonder and worry like this. Yes I see it is mentioned in the
> instructions, but we are just reading the screens as presented and
> dont see mention. Mention or no mention, it makes one think something
> is wrong. Or, if you mention "never mind that" then indeed, a real
> problem flitting by too fast to be read would also be assumed to just
> be another one of those intentional too-fast screens.
>
> /var/log/installer.log is a mess with all those ANSI graphic escapes.
> How is one supposed to read this?
>
> /var/lib/apt/lists/ is a mess with 171 character long file names. How
> How is one supposed to read this? With some apt tool I haven't
> learned yet I'm sure, but, pray tell, have you seen any other tool go
> so hog wild with file names... reminds me of /c/windows/Application
> Data/Identities/{1A52B6E0-D263-11D3-9BF7-AB2B6E60B450}/
> which at least will fit in my emacs window.
>
> It says one can read a page about each module... but the bsd_comp,
> etc. module doesn't have a page.
>
> I remember that I should have nls_cp950 installed to read Chinese off
> MS-windows or something, but it is disturbingly not asked about while
> other nls_cpXXX are . In Contents-i386.gz I see
> lib/modules/2.2.20/fs/nls_cp950.o base/kernel-image-2.2.20
> which I bet means it is already installed. But is would be best to
> have some comforting words during installation about why one's number
> isn't shown.
>
> "Scanning CD for index files": well my CD player is 10 meters away
> from my monitor. I have two CD players. I wish the install screens
> would say how to put them both to work during the install process.
>
> After the media change notice one pops in the new cd and things seem
> to stall, but actually it is reading files but not saying anything,
> until a few minutes later.
>
> For my Logitech trackball I should say Intellimouse. I remember Mandrake
> reminds us of this quirk, but not debian.
>
> Configuring this and that... "remember to edit ..." it says. Good
> luck remembering... maybe there should be a file presented to the
> user with all the things to remember in one place after installation.
>
> When we are going thru the installation screens it would be nice to
> in a corner see a "02/47" meaning page 2 of 47 total...
Decent user interface observations. The new installer should be able to
address some of these.
It will be great if you can stick around and test new versions as they
appear, and remind us when our interfaces are obtuse...
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