Re: 8.9" CT-PC89E ARM netbook .... UPDATE 04 FEB 2010 12:00
On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 3:09 PM, Hector Oron <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:
> Hi !
> 2010/2/4 Alejandro Mery <email@example.com>:
>> been "engineering samples"... what about the UART, serial port (even 2
>> pins help a lot) and jtag reachability? =)
> That's an important part. :-)
> Let me explain our experience. A bunch of Debian Developers met at
> Taipei (.tw) and we got a netbook (MIPS based) under $100. After we
> got it, we had *no shell*, *no root*, *no loader access*, *no
> We had to exploit a vulnerability in the pdf reader order to start
> telnetd and we were lucky to get a remote shell. After making some
> pressure to the company to release source code because they were
> violating GPL, they putted up some source packages, but not kernel
> (linux), nor bootloader (uboot).
*sigh* yes, a chinese MIPS cpu, whilst wonderfully cheap,
reverse-engineering - i've done it: i have 9 HTC Linux phones and one
ETEN G500+ to prove it - is a complete pain. i'm not doing it again
so, this time we play a different game: use the fact that of the 20
people wanting machines _fifteen_ of them are software engineers who
will happily help this factory to improve its value for the world
market by getting debian packages on it, right?
> This device has really nice price, but its openness really sucks. Be
> aware on what you buy, always make sure it really supports open
that's why adam's going along with his phone, laptop and a webcam and
skype. we can definitely see from the photo that it has a swirly "G"
and from that we're guessing it's "gOS", converted to chinese.
> The laptop I am talking about is http://www.g-netbook.com/GL-740I.html
> I would not recommend to anyone to buy it.
okaaay, thaat's what the Ingenic CPUs are, i wondered what those
numbers were. 4720 etc. ok, they're MIPS processors. yes. USB 1.1.
SDRAM. 366mhz CPU. wouldn't touch it. or, more specifically: i'm
looking in a different kind of price-range and a different kind of
feature-set. between adam and i we must have looked at over 300
systems over the past few months.
> In the case of ARM netbooks, I have been reading on the 'Always
> innovating Touchbook' based on the beagleboard (OMAP3)
yes! very nice machine, i know the hardware designer - really quiet guy.
the touchbook is more expensive so as to give them a good safety
margin. and the OMAP3530 CPU on its own is $35 even in 1k volumes!
add $20 for 256mb POP memory and you start to see why the price is
i've spent absolutely damn months looking for systems like this and
they are juust starting to crawl out the woodwork.