Re: upgraded to lenny/sid and ordered RAM
On Wed, 16 May 2007, Brian Morris wrote:
> On 5/16/07, Finn Thain <email@example.com> wrote:
> > On Tue, 15 May 2007, Brian Morris wrote:
> > > so i decided in order to track unstable i really had to get 64MB.
> > > but then I have another machine the quadra 605 so i got a 128MB for
> > > the 630 and a 64 for the 605. supposedly these large cards work only
> > > in these two machines (or similar).
> I should have said maybe they are not in yet. should be delivered late
> this week.
> > I have a 2-socket LC630 or Q630 motherboard that I was thinking of
> > upgrading.. I read somewhere that they would only accept 64 + 16. I
> > guess that is wrong? What sort of SIMMs are yours? Can you tell me the
> > chip count or the chip part codes? I've seen some 72 pin, 64 MB, DEC
> > SIMMs on ebay of late, but I didn't feel confident enough to buy some.
> the best web link i could find on this topic was
> according to this your machine (which is actually seems a 631
> motherboard. I have a 630 - it only has one slot, but i have seen a 631
> and it had two). has the highest possible RAM at upper limit of 192MB.
I just found this, which would indicate that only the DOS models can go to
196 MB (4 on-board + 64 SIMM + 128 SIMM):
(They also claim their hugely expensive 128 MB SIMM works in the Q605, as
> It looks to me like you have to use single sided cards in the second
> slot and double sided in the first, and neither likes double banked
> (wide) one. problem I had on ebay was often it says "may not be the
> exact picture". even the memory companies on their own sites do this.
> so anyway the parts i got i do not have to look at yet but on the order
> reciept it says:
> 128MB Apple Performa 630 Series 72-pin SIMM (p/n APL72P128)
> $49.98 1 $49.98
> 64MB PowerMac 6100, Performa, Quadra 72-pin SIMM (p/n
> APPLE-64MB-FPM-SIMM) $19.98 1 $19.98
> (I think I spent too much)
Well, perhaps not if we can fix xorg ;-)
> > > i have tried X and i got some initial screen but it is only about
> > > 2/3 of the way down and then it is overdrawn or something (whitish
> > > color with stripes) and hangs the console. I had done several
> > > install of both xfree and xorg on powerpc so I think I know if it is
> > > not apparently working. could it be problem with the framebuffer
> > > driver. the xorg fbdev uses another driver called something like
> > > fbhw or hwfvdev something like that.
> > That sucks. Was this the 630? I'd be curious to see your xorg.conf and
> > xorg.0.log (not that I would know how to fix it, I just wanted to
> > compare with ljmoore's...)
> yeah, i have not tried the 605 much at all. (it still has just a minimal
> Sarge install on).
> i will go back and try X once more, and whatever happens i will bring
> back the conf and log files. i just remembered where i used fbdev as
> driver before somewhere, that I can look at the options.
> another thing that kinda sucks is the fbdev driver does not support 1, 4
> bit. (it speeds up the old machines quite a bit).
Yeah, 8 bpp can be really slow on some macs. I never did much testing of
different video settings on fbdev though. But ISTR that 4 bpp worked on
some of my macs...
Was this a regression in linux 2.6 on your Q605/sarge box? Or does neither
the 2.2 nor 2.6 kernel support 1 bpp or 4 bpp fbdev (on either mac)?
> I should try the 605 though because i found i am able to get 1024x768 on
> that but only in 4bit unless I add vram. i don't know maybe that is
> another regression if i upgraded i would lose the 16bit support ? it is
> not costly though like the other RAM. it would be nice actually to put
> the VRAM in to get 8bit at 1024x768. it is nice even in 4 bit. anyway I
> should try that is is simply a matter of copying the 630 install to a
> spare external drive, and hooking it up.