The Ubuntu Developer Summit is now over. Here are the notes from [1] regarding the Debian session. Minutes Previous sessions: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/community-q-debian https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/community-p-debian etc. ------------------------------------------------ topics from https://lists.debian.org/debian-derivatives/2012/10/msg00055.html - support for Debian suites in Ubuntu PPA ( https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/188564 ) + This would be useful for helping Ubuntu developers to work with Debian. + This would require LP changes. LP development is fairly quiet, maintenance mode only. + Would Canonical provide buildd resources? Who would maintain chroots? - state of Debian packaging of Unity and Ubuntu One: interest from Ubuntu/Canonical? + reason current effort died: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=609278#67 - packages in Ubuntu Packages/Sources files missing SHA-1/SHA-256, see relevant entries from http://dex.alioth.debian.org/census/Ubuntu/check-package-list - [cjwatson] Could somebody file a Launchpad bug about this and subscribe ~ubuntu-archive? It seems widespread enough that we should sort through it systematically. - reduce the amount of packages that have been re-packaged from scratch in Ubuntu, or have "forked" packaging wrt Debian (as an indicator to spot them: they result in huge patches when we look at diffs in infrastructure tools like the derivatives census). Tentative list: linux iceweasel/firefox and other mozilla stuff - Canonical has an agreement for logos, etc and for certification of the firefox product nvidia-graphics-drivers chromium-browser (needed more embedded libraries to allow stable release updates) wine/wine-unstable (historical reasons mostly as Debian was behind and Ubuntu switched to versioned sources) calligra-l10n/koffice-l10n kde/xfce/gnome/lxde (xfce work is done in Debian) edubuntu/debian-edu - these teams are in contact with each other on a regular basis, could perhaps do more reporting on areas that are different and areas of collaboration digikam gtkmm3.0 (wrongly listed, we are in sync but on a newer series atm) kdepim mame (in sync) moon (removed!!!) openjdk-7 (control file needs regeneration) same maintainer in Debian and Ubuntu) qt4-x11 (merge from sid done at 4:4.8.2+dfsg-2 on Sep 12, 2012, 4.8.3 only in Ubuntu) qtwebkit-source (this was created so that it was easier to update qtwebkit without updating qt4-x11) quassel wxwidgets2.8 (has been merged [2.8.12.1-11ubuntu3]) upstart (ubuntu is upstream) ldm-themes / ldm-ubuntu-themes - might be able to reduce to just one source package lxc ideal goal: reduce the size of http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/sync-blacklist.txt - [cjwatson] This *should* be getting better because our auto-sync script is now much cleverer than it used to and doesn't require sync-blacklist entries for trivial reasons; I cleaned some of the cruft out a cycle or so ago, but it probably needs another extensive sweep. I agree that the shorter this is the better (for Ubuntu as well as for Debian). - what could Debian do to avoid Ubuntu's need to fork packages? - can Ubuntu contributors send a mail to inform relevant Debian maintainers when a UDS proposal affect their packages, so they know about it/ can provide feedback before implementation starts? [allison] process to add keywords to blueprints and allow people to subscribe to those keywords and be informed [laney] patch the internal blueprint review process to ensure that before approval, the presence of keywords (or affected packages) is verified - encouraging MOTUs to help the review process on the debian-mentors list, some starting points: http://mentors.debian.net/intro-reviewers http://wiki.debian.org/SponsorChecklist http://wiki.debian.org/HowToPackageForDebian#Check_points_for_any_package http://wiki.debian.org/LucaFalavigna/NEWChecklist] ^ This might be a bit hard, since we're already struggling to get all patches in Ubuntu reviewed. http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/sponsoring/ [zack] the review process is open to anyone http://mentors.debian.net/intro-reviewers (thanks paultag) [laney] can canonical employees as part of patch pilot to do mentors.d.n work? Work Items: [stefanor] Investigate missing sha256 checksums from package files in dex [Debian Derivatives Census infrastructure]: find a place where to track the reason/status of forking/repackaging from scratch, of specific cases [TODO] add a refererence to (or table from) the Debian mentors list Thanks, Nathan Handler (nhandler) [1] http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-r/meeting/21107/community-r-debian/
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