Erm, in preparing my DPL report from DebConf10, I've discovered that,
well, ... I'm an idiot :-) I did send them to Matt as requested, but
apparently to a wrong email address, so he has probably never received
them. To avoid extra hops, and given this is the place where to post
them anyhow, I now post them here directly.
Cheers.
----- Forwarded message from Stefano Zacchiroli <zack@debian.org> -----
Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2010 12:18:19 -0400
From: Stefano Zacchiroli <zack@debian.org>
To: Matt Zimmerman <mdz@debian.org>
Subject: derivatives BoF minutes
Re: http://mdzlog.alcor.net/?p=1545
Sorry, I completely forgot about the minutes; you can find them
attached, please post them where appropriate as the BoF organizers (of
course, I believe -derivatives should be one of the obvious recipients).
Thanks for the BoF!
Cheers.
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BoF: Debian Derivatives, DebConf10, 3/8/2010
============================================
Projects Represented:
* Debian
* Ubuntu
* GRML
* webconverger
appreciations
-------------
* lucas, for explaining Debian "culture" :D (by jcastro)
* zack reported the "success stories" of team collaborating debian/ubuntu
teams: pkg-games, pkg-java, dpmt/papt, d-i, dpkg, security,
pkg-freevo/-mono/-perl, APT, live-helper, nginx, PAM
* daniel baumann (works on debian live, appreciated by Kai Hendry)
* bdmurray working with lucas to get the information he needed from launchpad
to get data to the PTS pages for patches.
* jordi and zack for "pings" on grub maintenance status in debian (from colin)
* cjwatson for some responses about grub (from Michael).
* Lucas and Scott Kitterman for explaining the Ubuntu culture to Zack.
puzzles / questions / rumors
----------------------------
- is there any fast tracking for Ubuntu people to become DD?
there is fast tracking based on the work done, but it is not Ubuntu-specific
DISCUSSION ....
complaints & suggestions
------------------------
- merge some of the ubuntu-dev-tools scripts into devscripts
- giving credit ubuntu -> debian on the website (now fixed)
- debian can do better in recognising contribution other than packaging, that
way that kind of work coming from derivatives will be "pushable upstream"
- "mini-derivatives" that do not change much: they should make an effort in
being more easily distinguishable, so that bugs go to them and not to their
upstream
new information
---------------
- fast tracking: how is the situation in both direction
- derivatives front desk (see below for info)
hopes & wishes
--------------
* real time import of the Debian BTS in Launchpad (immediate bug notification)
* upstream wish: an easier way to get a package into Debian (not in the sense
of the official distribution, but in the sense of unofficial packages which
are easy enough to use; e.g. PPA)
* PPA(-like) infrastructure for Debian (debexpo/mentors.d.n needs helpers)
* http://wiki.debian.org/MergeDerivedDistributions
* debian-live derivatives project
actions
-------
- making a list of developers in both projects (Debian & Ubuntu)
- Fast tracking debian developers to become Ubuntu developers, how come no one
knows this exists? (jcastro) (add a note to DeveloperNews)
- Debian builds in PPAs for Developers?: https://bugs.launchpad.net/soyuz/+bug/188564 (jorge)
Debian Derivatives FrontDesk (SPAM section)
===========================================
* http://wiki.debian.org/DerivativesFrontDesk
* derivatives@debian.org (contact point for inquiries) (points at discussion list?)
* debian-derivatives@lists.debian.org (discussion list)
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