Erm, in preparing my DPL report from DebConf10, I've discovered that, well, ... I'm an idiot :-) I did send them to Matt as requested, but apparently to a wrong email address, so he has probably never received them. To avoid extra hops, and given this is the place where to post them anyhow, I now post them here directly. Cheers. ----- Forwarded message from Stefano Zacchiroli <zack@debian.org> ----- Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2010 12:18:19 -0400 From: Stefano Zacchiroli <zack@debian.org> To: Matt Zimmerman <mdz@debian.org> Subject: derivatives BoF minutes Re: http://mdzlog.alcor.net/?p=1545 Sorry, I completely forgot about the minutes; you can find them attached, please post them where appropriate as the BoF organizers (of course, I believe -derivatives should be one of the obvious recipients). Thanks for the BoF! Cheers. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 zack@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} -<>- http://upsilon.cc/zack/ Dietro un grande uomo c'è ..| . |. Et ne m'en veux pas si je te tutoie sempre uno zaino ...........| ..: |.... Je dis tu à tous ceux que j'aime BoF: Debian Derivatives, DebConf10, 3/8/2010 ============================================ Projects Represented: * Debian * Ubuntu * GRML * webconverger appreciations ------------- * lucas, for explaining Debian "culture" :D (by jcastro) * zack reported the "success stories" of team collaborating debian/ubuntu teams: pkg-games, pkg-java, dpmt/papt, d-i, dpkg, security, pkg-freevo/-mono/-perl, APT, live-helper, nginx, PAM * daniel baumann (works on debian live, appreciated by Kai Hendry) * bdmurray working with lucas to get the information he needed from launchpad to get data to the PTS pages for patches. * jordi and zack for "pings" on grub maintenance status in debian (from colin) * cjwatson for some responses about grub (from Michael). * Lucas and Scott Kitterman for explaining the Ubuntu culture to Zack. puzzles / questions / rumors ---------------------------- - is there any fast tracking for Ubuntu people to become DD? there is fast tracking based on the work done, but it is not Ubuntu-specific DISCUSSION .... complaints & suggestions ------------------------ - merge some of the ubuntu-dev-tools scripts into devscripts - giving credit ubuntu -> debian on the website (now fixed) - debian can do better in recognising contribution other than packaging, that way that kind of work coming from derivatives will be "pushable upstream" - "mini-derivatives" that do not change much: they should make an effort in being more easily distinguishable, so that bugs go to them and not to their upstream new information --------------- - fast tracking: how is the situation in both direction - derivatives front desk (see below for info) hopes & wishes -------------- * real time import of the Debian BTS in Launchpad (immediate bug notification) * upstream wish: an easier way to get a package into Debian (not in the sense of the official distribution, but in the sense of unofficial packages which are easy enough to use; e.g. PPA) * PPA(-like) infrastructure for Debian (debexpo/mentors.d.n needs helpers) * http://wiki.debian.org/MergeDerivedDistributions * debian-live derivatives project actions ------- - making a list of developers in both projects (Debian & Ubuntu) - Fast tracking debian developers to become Ubuntu developers, how come no one knows this exists? (jcastro) (add a note to DeveloperNews) - Debian builds in PPAs for Developers?: https://bugs.launchpad.net/soyuz/+bug/188564 (jorge) Debian Derivatives FrontDesk (SPAM section) =========================================== * http://wiki.debian.org/DerivativesFrontDesk * derivatives@debian.org (contact point for inquiries) (points at discussion list?) * debian-derivatives@lists.debian.org (discussion list) ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7 zack@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} -<>- http://upsilon.cc/zack/ Quando anche i santi ti voltano le spalle, | . |. I've fans everywhere ti resta John Fante -- V. Caposella .......| ..: |.......... -- C. Adams
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