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Re: sata driver compataility Q



On 9/16/23 19:46, David Christensen wrote:
On 9/15/23 19:37, gene heskett wrote:
On 9/15/23 20:12, David Christensen wrote:
On 9/15/23 15:04, gene heskett wrote:
On 9/15/23 17:35, David Christensen wrote:
On 9/15/23 12:28, gene heskett wrote:
I've just ordered some stuff to rebuild or expand my Raid setup.
This 16 port sata-III pci-e card:
<https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09L184W57?smid=A2H818KAC5I4D1&ref_=chk_typ_imgToDp&th=1>
along with a bigger drive cage, cables and such and some gigastone 2T drives to make a raid big enough to run amanda. And maybe put a new card in front of my 2T /home raid10.

Is everything going into one chassis?  Have you considered an external drive chassis?

Got one of those coming too. Small possibility it will fit it the bottom of this huge and old tiger direct tower.  Because the radiator for the 6 core i5 is too tall, it hasn't had a side cover on it in years. If not, theres a 3 3.5" cage at the bottom of the stack I can stuff  with 2 SSD's per bay slot. A hidey place, front cover is solid, but cooling might be a problem. If worse comes to worse I could shoe-goo a 120x15 to the side of the cage.


This is what I meant:

     https://www.pc-pitstop.com/16-bay-25inch-sas-sata-jbod-tower

Call me cheap, my choice is diy assembly, SS stampings you put together, all drive brackets and a dozen cables and a 5 drive power splitter, $30.
Less than 5% of the price of that nice looking box.


Fair enough.


Searching the mailing list archive, it appears that you have an Asus PRIME Z370-A II motherboard (?):


https://www.asus.com/motherboards-components/motherboards/prime/prime-z370-a-ii/


And, an Intel Core i5 processor (?).  Which model?

cpuinfo can't copy/paste, 6 core, i5-9600K CPU @ 3.70GHz but apparently very pushable, I ran one cycle of memtester pointed at 16G's and saw it above 4300 mhz a couple times, and that core hit 51C, which is 20C hotter than its ever run b4. With my intermittent load it often loafs at 800 mhz & 29C, 33C when OpenSCAD is munching on something I've designed.

How many GB of OS and apps do you have?  Home directory?  Bulk data? Amanda backups?  VM's?  Other?


While researching this thread, I came across an HBA that may interest both of us:


     https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09L3GLCL9

Thats nice but only an x4 for $117, how about an x16, which I have an empty slot for a full length X16 at $160:
<https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09K5GLJ8D/ref=sspa_dk_detail_1?pd_rd_i=B09K5GLJ8D&pd_rd_w=uURqc&content-id=amzn1.sym.386c274b-4bfe-4421-9052-a1a56db557ab&pf_rd_p=386c274b-4bfe-4421-9052-a1a56db557ab&pf_rd_r=VS9WAJ20QJWARTNAFRHD&pd_rd_wg=yO0Xv&pd_rd_r=fa3d74b2-3aa8-4d29-b549-1cf579949c11&s=pc&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9kZXRhaWxfdGhlbWF0aWM&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEzNzVCT0w1MVhVSkpRJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwODc2OTQ3M0YxSkhTSzdZQUpSSyZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwNTMyMjkxMTVOQUNFNEhLMFZPTyZ3aWRnZXROYW1lPXNwX2RldGFpbF90aGVtYXRpYyZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU&th=1>

Or is the jmicron x4 better supported?

4x the bandwidth (3.94 GB/s), 8 more SATA ports (24 total), and $42.31 higher price ($117.30).  I would prefer this card for the bandwidth alone, and I never know when I might need those extra ports to temporarily connect a bunch of disks from other machines.


If your goal is maximum capacity at minimum cost, HDD's have larger capacity, lower bandwidth, and lower cost per TB than SSD's -- per bay, per drive, and per port.  Port multiplication makes sense with HDD's.


For file server and backup server roles, I use ZFS with HDD primary storage devices and full bandwidth HBA.  Read performance, write performance, and capacity utilization can be improved with ZFS compression, read performance can be improved with an SSD cache vdev (virtual device; e.g. partition), and write performance can be improved with SSD intent log vdev (mirror of partitions).  For the backup server role, capacity utilization can be improved with ZFS deduplication and an SSD dedup vdev (mirror of partitions).


Regardless of what you do with HBA's, I would connect the six SSD's to the six motherboard SATA III ports.

Which would tie them up. Is that the faster solution, moving the opticals to a different card? The question then is can the bios see them to boot from them?

I did grab what I think is a newer bios yesterday but haven't tried to install it yet.
 mt86plus_6.20_64.grub.iso.zip

A fresh install of  Debian stable or old-stable should solve the storage I/O stuttering problems you are experiencing.  (That motherboard has dual M.2 ports.  Installing Debian onto an M.2 PCIE 3.0 x4 SSD would be very nice.)

I know zip about the new m2 stuff. Link to good info appreciated. I didn't use it originally because I couldn't find the m2 sockets but probably didn't look too hard as I was more concerned with getting another system built after a usb socket on the previous occupant of that space caught fire and tried to burn the place down.

Can you find a link showing where the m2 memory is plugged in?
My 32G is in the dimm sockets.

David

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Thank you David.  Take care & stay well.

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