Re: reasons to ditch LILO before upgrading to jessie?
On Fri 08 Jul 2016 at 15:08:21 -0400, Gary Dale wrote:
> On 08/07/16 02:19 PM, Brian wrote:
> >On Thu 07 Jul 2016 at 23:34:11 -0400, Gary Dale wrote:
> >
> >>On 07/07/16 05:12 PM, Brian wrote:
> >>>On Thu 07 Jul 2016 at 15:18:05 -0400, Gary Dale wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>On 07/07/16 02:55 PM, David Wright wrote:
> >>>>>On Thu 07 Jul 2016 at 14:39:51 (-0400), Gary Dale wrote:
> >>>>>>The big selling feature of Grub over Lilo was that it didn't need to
> >>>>>>updated each time you changed something. That fell by the wayside
> >>>>>>with Grub 2. Now the big selling feature is that it works with more
> >>>>>>than just Linux.
> >>>>>I guess I don't know what you mean by "update".
> >>>>>If I change the contents of grub.cfg, the effect is immediate:
> >>>>>the changes will be seen at the next boot. I don't do anything more.
> >>>>However the second line of grub.cfg says "DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE". If you do
> >>>>edit it, the changes will be overwritten the next time a debian upgrade
> >>>>automatically regenerates it. The only method for preserving your changes is
> >>>>to update the grub templates then run update-grub.
> >>>No it's not. dpkg-divert. That's sufficient to search the list archives
> >>>for something which has been mentioned a few times but has passed you by.
> >>A lot of trouble for something that can be avoided if you just edit the
> >>correct files in the first place.
> >Let's see. You write your own grub.cfg or edit the existing one. You
> >want to preserve your file from being changed so you use a *one line
> >command* to ensure that. But this one line command is a lot of trouble.
> >A one line command is onerous?
> >
> >It is much easier to edit the unspecified "correct files" to stop any
> >changes to grub.cfg at a Debian upgrade which attempts to regenerate
> >it? One lives and learns.
> >
> Let's see then. You can edit a grub template file or grub.cfg. You make the
No. You edit or devise a grub,cfg. GRUB template files are not involved.
They are irrelevant. You can ignore them because you are doing you own
thing. You have decided what *you* want, not what /etc/grub.d wants to
give you.
If you have some way of easily adjusting files in /etc/grub.d to the
needs of a user I wish you would say.
> same change either way but the grub template file won't get clobbered so
> there is no need to run dpkg-divert.
It's not the same change. ("grub template file". What is that? There
isn't one as far as I can see).
> Moreover, you don't need to update a system manual to note that you are
> diverting a package. You just need to note that a single file is not the
> package maintainers default - something you have to do either way.
Diverting is a Debian thing. The GRUB manual would never mention it.
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