Re: systemd-free alternatives are not off topic.
On 11/23/2014 1:15 PM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Du, 23 nov 14, 12:17:00, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>>
>> What I see missing in these discussions is the vast number of people who
>> don't monitor the lists. That is the huge majority of Debian users.
>
> I agree that they are the majority.
>
>> Some will get a rude surprise when they upgrade and things don't work as
>> expected.
>
> Well, I will assert that those users also don't customize their systems
> in ways that would matter for the Wheezy -> Jessie upgrade switch to
> systemd[1].
>
I think that's a false assumption. Virtually every server I'm familiar
with has some customization for individual needs. Very few are running
stock Wheezy packages only. But that's probably because one of the
things I do is device drivers, and virtually every system I write them
for is special purpose for one reason or another.
Even though my experience shows the opposite, I will admit that
experience is a small part of the entire Linux installation base.
However, I still don't believe you can make that assumption.
>> Many will be able to fix those problems - but at a cost of time and
>> manpower. Others will have neither the time nor the money to fix the
>> problems, and still others will not have the technical expertise to do so.
>
> As with any major transition. And your point is?
>
> [1] assuming this will happen, as it's still not decided yet.
>
> Kind regards,
> Andrei
>
This is a much bigger change than any release in about the last 10
years. With other upgrades, virtually everything custom ran fine. The
biggest problem I saw was when the device driver interface changed and I
had to rewrite a bunch of drivers. But even that was minimal compared
to this change - which will affect many more users.
Jerry
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