well I managed to fix my fetchmail problem by going back to the fetchmail version in stable, not sure what the problem with the unstable version was but at least now Im getting my mail again :) G'razel the shifty kitty (kestrel@aye.net) http://www.aye.net/~kestrel found on Tapestries FurryMUCK -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to debian-user-request@lists.debian.org . Trouble? e-mail to templin@bucknell.edu .