Till Kamppeter wrote... > The presentation on DebConf will be even the transition from the original > CUPS realm to a second, new CUPS realm, ... ... and thanks a lot for that, it gave the clarification needed to understand what you're heading for. > > So, it's a good time to resume that topic. DebConf might be as well the > > right moment to initiate a "Let's remove lpr-based printing from Debian" > > discussion. How would you assess the situation and ideas today? > > ... so in my opinion as CUPS already well established and making its way to > the New Architecture after 20+ years in its original architecture, and that > not only in Debian, and therefore everything LPR/LPDish not being maintained > any more, we should really remove the old LPR/LPD-based remainders from the > Debian distro. One of the questions that I couldn't ask since we were already behind schedule: Assuming the next Debian release (~2025) will no longer ship cups2 at all, how does does affect the existing ecosystem around PPD? I might be wrong but I got the impression serveral packages will just drop out of that stable release simply because they won't be longer installable as they rely on cups2 packages. As this is a bit Debian-specific, perhaps somebody else can clarify? Also it's not important for me, I'm just a little courious :) [ legacy libppd ] > > Without having looked into the old discussions, so just from memory: > > Unike last December I'm more inclined today to just kick the old stuff > > out of Debian, in my area that would be my legacy libppd and gpr which > > depends on it. The latter would require some interaction with the > > maintainer, but we could at least give that a try. > > "maintainer" of gpr? Debian package or upstream? If there is a Debian > package maintainer insisting on gpr's continuation, they should tell us why. The Debian maintainer of the gpr package (A Mennucc1). My idea a few weeks agos was as simply as talking to them and ask for removal of that package. Now as there already is a (somewhat questionable) removal request in <https://bugs.debian.org/1050359>, the problem might go away soon anyway. So looking forward: I propose I'll file a removal request for legacy libppd in a week or so, and later for the failed legacy-libppd attempt as well. Then finally the package name is free for your version of libppd as you had requested nine months ago. > I would really remove all this from Debian. Droping lpr-based printing entirely is something I wouldn't object, but I lack the courage to trigger the process. Christoph
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