On 2018-02-17, Dashamir Hoxha wrote: > On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 9:47 PM, Vagrant Cascadian <vagrant@debian.org> > wrote: >> My assumption and/or preference would be that projects clearly related >> to Debian or very directly beneficial to Debian be given first >> consideration. Maybe that's a reasonable expectation, maybe not. > > Remember that the aim of GSoC is not just to get some work done for > the involved organization. In fact the work done by the students may be > totally useless and be throwed away. The main aim is to get students > involved with the communities. Sure. And it's a laudable goal. I'm pesonally even more excited by Outreachy's goals. I'm concerned about brushing it aside because it's not "the aim of GSoC". If a talk is given and Debian is listed in the talk title, on all the slides, and is mentioned throughout the talk, then I can (and did) see how an audience might get confused and worse and grill the speaker(s) about what it has to do with Debian. (I'd like to stress that I surely don't think that was anyone's intention, or there's any need to find blame in anyone). Maybe some people think trial by fire is a good thing; maybe in Debian it's even a harsh reality; I don't think putting newcomers in a position of public ridicule and/or humiliation is a good introduction to our community. I don't think it serves Debian, GSoC or Outreachy, or the Free/Libre Open Source communities at large to let that happen again. That seems like something to either avoid entirely by selecting projects where the relationship with Debian is self-evident, or at the very least have a clear plan for how to handle similar situations that may come up. That's probably enough/too much said for now... live well, vagrant
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