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Bug#384476: marked as done (lintian: please emit error for dependencies against python-minimal)

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Package: lintian
Severity: wishlist

* Steve Langasek [Thu, 24 Aug 2006 01:45:26 -0700]:

> On Thu, Aug 24, 2006 at 10:23:46AM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> > On Thu, Aug 24, 2006 at 08:43:22AM +0100, martin f krafft wrote:
> > > Also note that much of Debian started out as Perl. I won't compare
> > > the two, but it's basically the same. And there is python-minimal
> > > and I have heard rumours that it will be in base soon.

> > What? What? What?

> > Can you expand on this rumor (you or someone else)? I was postponing a
> > post on debian-devel asking about having some sort of python in base
> > since I developed a tool for managing vim add-ons in python, but I'm
> > scared about uploading it with a dependency on python (since it should
> > be shipped with vim itself). More generally we have core tools developed
> > in python (e.g. reportbug), and it's a pity not having the minimal
> > needed python support for them in base.

> Frankly, I think the fact that Debian has a python-minimal package at *all*
> is deplorable.  When this package first snuck into Debian from Ubuntu, it
> was stated quite clearly in the following discussion that upstream
> considered it completely unacceptable for anyone to ship python in such a
> state that users would end up with less than the full python suite installed
> on their system.  The *only* reason for the split between python and
> python-minimal in Ubuntu is because python-minimal is Essential: yes, and
> the only reason this split is *acceptable* to upstream is that python itself
> is also part of the base system (Priority: important).

> Given that there has been no decision to include python-minimal in the set
> of essential packages for Debian, and python hasn't been promoted to the
> base system for Debian, it's totally premature for this package to even
> exist in Debian.  The only goal this package serves is to make it convenient
> for the maintainer to maintain the package for both Debian and Ubuntu from a
> single source; in all other respects, it's bad for Debian.

> And the python2.4-minimal package even has reverse-dependencies in unstable
> now.  <sigh>

It sounds to me like this is something lintian could check (it already
does with other packages, see e.g. the "depends-on-x-metapackage" tag).

Lintian maintainers, would you be willing to add a check to flag as an
error any dependency against python*-minimal, based on the above
explanation by Steve?

-- 
Adeodato Simó                                     dato at net.com.org.es
Debian Developer                                  adeodato at debian.org
 
Kindness is a language which the deaf can hear and the blind can read.
                -- Mark Twain

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Source: lintian
Source-Version: 1.23.24

We believe that the bug you reported is fixed in the latest version of
lintian, which is due to be installed in the Debian FTP archive:

lintian_1.23.24.dsc
  to pool/main/l/lintian/lintian_1.23.24.dsc
lintian_1.23.24.tar.gz
  to pool/main/l/lintian/lintian_1.23.24.tar.gz
lintian_1.23.24_all.deb
  to pool/main/l/lintian/lintian_1.23.24_all.deb



A summary of the changes between this version and the previous one is
attached.

Thank you for reporting the bug, which will now be closed.  If you
have further comments please address them to 384476@bugs.debian.org,
and the maintainer will reopen the bug report if appropriate.

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Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org> (supplier of updated lintian package)

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Format: 1.7
Date: Mon,  4 Sep 2006 12:03:16 -0700
Source: lintian
Binary: lintian
Architecture: source all
Version: 1.23.24
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Debian Lintian Maintainers <lintian-maint@debian.org>
Changed-By: Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org>
Description: 
 lintian    - Debian package checker
Closes: 376119 377740 384476 385178 386014
Changes: 
 lintian (1.23.24) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   The "LSB init script" release
 .
   * checks/control-files:
     + [RA] perm2oct definition moved to Util.pm.
   * checks/cruft{.desc,}:
     + [RA] Remove the (info-level) check for .cvsignore files in the
       source tarball.  This isn't an error; those files contain metadata
       that may be useful for people making modifications and it's quite
       common to distribute them.
   * checks/debconf{.desc,}:
     + [RA] Diagnose unknown priorities in db_input and db_text
       invocations.  Patch from Thomas Huriaux.  (Closes: #386014)
   * checks/fields{.desc,}:
     + [RA] Depending on versioned variants of python-minimal is also an
       error.  Thanks, Adeodato Simó.  (Closes: #384476)
   * checks/files:
     + [RA] perm2oct definition moved to Util.pm.
   * checks/init.d{.desc,}:
     + [RA] Added a warning for init scripts missing an LSB keyword
       section, checks of the syntax of such a section if present, and
       some basic semantic checks of the easiest fields.  Based on initial
       work by Carlos Villegas.  (Closes: #377740)
   * checks/menus:
     + [RA] perm2oct definition moved to Util.pm.
   * checks/scripts:
     + [RA] Properly concatenate the dependencies for a package when
       checking whether the dependency for an interpreter is included.
       Thanks, Vincent Danjean.  (Closes: #385178)
   * checks/shared-libs:
     + [RA] perm2oct definition moved to Util.pm.
 .
   * lib/Util.pm:
     + [RA] Move perm2oct to here and improve recognition of s, S, t, and T
       characters.  Thanks to Justin B. Rye for patch.  (Closes: #376119)
Files: 
 d99a044f4bdd199c9b267c89cf3f5cbb 803 devel optional lintian_1.23.24.dsc
 be2ff09babea1a73bb75c8508e2465f5 312666 devel optional lintian_1.23.24.tar.gz
 c681e9f48104e3304cbfdccfd814b563 265882 devel optional lintian_1.23.24_all.deb

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