Re: Mudslicking to counter SPAM (was TARPIT)
Moin Nigel Metheringham,
> The Teergrube solution is *not* in any way a solution to your problem -
> don't even consider it. Remember that the machines sending you these
> bounces and complaints are probably innocently of any proper
> involvement in this spam run. There are also likely to be thousands of
> them, so when you say...
Relays are !NOT! innocent, they are so bad administrated, that they
relay SPAM. Those sites deserve to become reinstalled.
> > This will cause the spaming host to go down, as any operating
> > system has a limit on open sockets.
>
> the system it will take down is *your* system.
no because, the tarpit has a limit on its open connections, and the
used bandwidth is minimal. Currently there are to few tarpits to cause
any system going down. But the main thing about a tarpit, that it effectivly
stops SPAMs from online accounts. As the tarpit holds the SMTP connection
open, you can eMail the SPAM provider the exact IP nummber/port combination,
and be sure, that this IP still exists.
> Also DOSing the relays is likely to bring you into problems of legality.
Well its effectivly impossible to sue some american from germany
and vice versa. So problems of legality, are not my concern.
The most drastic method is "mudslicking" providers of foreign countries.
I've done that with a medium size US provider. One of his customers
(Lifepicture.Com) send SPAM. I've eMailed this provider to disconnect
his customer, but the provider did'nt react. As the customer who send
the SPAM, also had a virtual website, I started a mudslicking campain.
I've grepped DNS and RIPE information to gather serious customers of
the provider and the address of a local newspaper in Atlanta to
start the mudslicking campain. Means I informed his customers and the
newspaper, that the provider is not only hosting dirty pictures, but
also supporting SPAM to advertise this pictures. Pressure from his
customers, and an article in the newspaper, caused that the provider
reacted. They now have an abuse@ which is carefully read and react
quick, when they encounter SPAM and dirty pictures.
Of course this provider impend to sue me, as they had lost a dozen
customers during this mudslicking campain. They had to realise,
that it does'nt make any sense to sue some german. Especialy as I
would never enter US because of "Project Equaliser".
IMHO mudslicking is the most effective method to counter SPAM.
Providers with badly adminstrated relays, will lose customers, and
this will cause them to start to think about SPAM, in fear of
subsquent mudslicking campains.
The bad thing to tell about mudslicking is that its very time intensive,
so perhaps "just ignore the SPAM" is still the most convenient method.
Bye Michael
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