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Re: support for merged /usr in Debian



On Sat, 9 Jan 2016 11:12:37 +0000, Jonathan McDowell
<noodles@earth.li> wrote:
>On Fri, Jan 08, 2016 at 07:09:59PM +0100, Marc Haber wrote:
>> On Fri, 8 Jan 2016 17:54:49 +0000, Jonathan McDowell
>> <noodles@earth.li> wrote:
>> >You're not communicating clearly and this is indeed causing problems
>> >in this thread. You said "all my clients run unstable", not "all my
>> >client machines run unstable". You've also later said "I've not
>> >installed any new Debian systems at any client site". It is not
>> >unreasonable that the casual reader will assume you are using the
>> >term to mean a 3rd party who you are managing system for.
>> 
>> You're right to blame for only speaking english for 30 years of my
>> life and living in a country where TV programs are dubbed. I am also
>> deeply worried about the Operating System I still care about after 15
>> years and which works so hard to feel not like a home any more.
>
>I'm not sure how you've taken any of this meaning from my message. You
>have inconsistently used certain terms such that it's not surprising
>they have been misunderstood by others in this thread. I am not in any
>way complaining about your grasp of the English language.

And it happened again in the very next message. My bad. A client is a
computer, a customer is a company or an individual. In German, there
is a clear distinction between that since one also says "client" for
the computer and "Kunde" for the customer.

>> >As far as I can tell what he wants to happen is a) files in / and
>> >/usr locations not to conflict and b) policy to state that this
>> >should be the case.
>> 
>> If that is really the gist of those editorial changes[1], then this is
>> actually a misunderstanding. Maybe UsrMerge is even a misnomer.
>
>These are not editorial changes. There's a clear desire for a change in
>the way things are handled, and I don't believe there is any need to
>ascribe an ulterior motive to it. Marco wants to be able to merge / and
>/usr on his systems. Various other people do as well. If we, as a
>project, say that we should not have duplicate file names between these
>portions of the file system then they can have their desire and the rest
>of us can continue to keep them separate.

And I fear that the current motive will only be step one, with maybe
step three being the really harmful step. I'd like to stop an avalange
before it gets moving.

Greetings
Marc
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