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Re: [Debconf-team] [Debconf10-localteam] bursary team and global vs. local



Jimmy Kaplowitz wrote:
> Hi Micah,
> 
> Thanks for sending such a thoughtful (if long) email. My thoughts are below.
> 
> On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 06:34:36PM -0400, micah wrote:
> > On March 18th[1], Michael Schultheiss sent an email to
> > debian-devel-announce and debconf-announce announcing that we are going
> > to open up the sponsorship selection process, and soliciting help for
> > people to work on sponsorship decisions. Several people responded and
> > were added to the Debconf10 Teams page under the Travel Sponsorship
> > sub-team of the larger Sponsorship Team[2]. The reason to send out this
> > request for help was because it was decided to do so at the Global Team
> > meeting on March 17th[3].
> > 
> > From a process perspective, this is very confusing.

I apologize for the confusion this process caused.  At the March 17th
Global Team meeting (and until recently) I was unaware of the previous
volunteers for the bursary team.

> Yes. The global team felt strongly (and probably accurately) that
> travel sponsorship should not be a purely local thing since, even more
> than most globally relevant things having a worldwide set of
> perspectives is important to know Debian contributors in different
> parts of the world.

The RFH was sent out to debian-devel-announce and debconf-announce to
try and reach the broadest pool of volunteers.  It wasn't my intent to
exclude anyone who had already volunteered.

> > I'm pretty sure that this was just an oversight and part of the
> > general discombobulation about how the local and global parts fit
> > together. Both Hydroxide and Mr. Beige have done their best to
> > represent the local team at the global meetings, and I suspect that
> > the local recruitment for this team at that earlier meeting was
> > simply forgotten.
> 
> I don't remember if we mentioned it at the global team or not; if we
> did, the reasoning of the global team which I mentioned above explains
> why that didn't work for them in this case.

I don't recall it being mentioned at the global team meeting nor do I
recall reading about the bursary team before the past few days.

> > Secondly, please update the schedule[5] to reflect the new timeline
> > regarding sponsorship decisions.  I'm not exactly clear now what it
> > is supposed to be, but I do know that the March 17th deadline for
> > first-pass sponsorship decisions is *long* past, and I don't know
> > what to tell people who are asking me about this. If I am properly
> > clued in I will try to update it myself. I think I understand it has
> > been turned into May 15th, but there may be other adjustments here
> > that I am not aware of.
> 
> The original date was April 17, not March 17, but it has indeed
> passed. The technical issues preventing the team from rating travel
> sponsorship requests were only finally fixed a day or two ago. However
> this wasn't intended to be a first pass of sponsorship decisions for
> every request; it was intended to be a final decision for only the
> requests which can obviously be resolved one way or other. This was a
> local team idea that the global team went along with, fwiw, not
> originally a global team idea. Even if the date had been met, most
> people wouldn't have heard back by then.

Again I reiterate that I didn't intend to leave out anyone who had
already volunteered nor did I intend to usurp team leadership from
anyone who desired to to serve in that role.  I'd be happy to add Micah
(and anyone else still interested from the original bursary team) to the
current team.

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