Dear Mark, also sprach Mark Shuttleworth <mark@ubuntu.com> [2008.04.22.0821 +0200]: >I haven't written the talk yet. ... but you surely know the gist of what you want to talk about. > My request isn't driven by a specific set of ideas, but driven by > my sense that this sort of engagement would greatly help to > improve the relationship, which in turn would be very positive > for Debian. The reason I keep asking is because it's not the first time I hear this. So far, Ubuntu as a whole hasn't really approached Debian, despite meetings such as the one in Mexico, where a lot of things were talked about but never implemented. There is good cooperation between individual teams, but that's neither an Ubuntu effort, nor a Debian one. It shows, however, that collaboration is possible. You are now asking us to make an exception for you — our deadline for talk proposals has passed. If we can see the potential in what you have in store, then, by all means, we'll make it happen anyway; we are definitely interested in improving the relationship between our projects. To help us make the exception, please provide us with more information. Please tell us what you plan to do and how this is going to be "very positive for Debian" (and DebConf). Maybe you could also mention why you want to talk about this at DebConf, rather than on some mailing list (like DCT, utnubu), or with individuals who have always been interested in the cooperation between our projects. I suggest you create an event in the pentabarf interface (now that we created the keynote event type) and provide the information there. I am not trying to impose extra work here, pentabarf is just what our papers committee uses to make decisions. If you don't want to make it all public yet, you're welcome to email them to the papers committee <committee@debconf.org>, and please put me on CC explicitly. PS: I would (personally) also be interested in the relationship of your proposal to http://vcs-pkg.org, but that's tangential. Cheers, -- .''`. martin f. krafft <madduck@debconf.org> : :' : DebConf orga team; press officer `. `'` `- DebConf8, 10-16 Aug 2008, Argentina: http://debconf.org "the unexamined life is not worth living" -- platon
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