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Re: Mailing list unsubscription requests and identificatio



On 8/11/23 14:25, tomas@tuxteam.de wrote:
On Fri, Aug 11, 2023 at 10:59:14AM -0400, gene heskett wrote:

[...]

The recommended procedure usually works, unless the user is now using a
different browser or has installed a new version of the OS.

Sorry, Gene, this is plain wrong. The way it works is this:

No its not Tomas, everytime ff issues an update, I have to go thru all the bs of proving I am me to my bank, and its been that way for at least a decade. The fact that I have a nearly 30 character pw it would take eons to guess, doesn't mean a thing to them.

  1. you send the mailing list software an unsubscription
    request for a specific mail address: either by sending
    a mail or by performing a HTTP GET on a specific URL
    (aka "clicking on a link")

  2. the mailing list software sends a mail (containing a
    token) to confirm the unsubscription request; you can
    again reply by mail or "click on a link" (see above).
    In both cases, the confirmation contains this token.

Note that it is in step 2 where you prove that you have "control
over the mail address in question", meaning that you can read
mails sent to this address, because otherwise you wouldn't know
the token.

No browser identification or other mysterious OS stuff going on
here. Plain, simple and working since 30-40 years.

The only way you can "lose" the capability to unsubscribe is
if you "lose control" over your mail addres. But then, Someone
Else is getting the debian-user@ mails, and unsubscription
becomes Someone Else's problem. Big deal.

The only way Someone Else can unsubscribe you from debian-user@
is if Someone Else has read access to your inbox. But then, if
you don't trust Someone Else, you've got bigger troubles than
Just Being Unsubscribed From Some Random Public Mailing List.

furrfu.

Cheers

Cheers, Gene Heskett.
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