Re: A case for supporting antiquated hardware, was Re: A hypervisor for a headless server?
On 3/6/23 06:33, Nicholas Geovanis wrote:
On Fri, Jun 2, 2023, 4:49 PM Bret Busby <bret@busby.net
<mailto:bret@busby.net>> wrote:
On 2/6/23 23:55, James H. H. Lampert wrote:
<snip>
> Luddites of the World Unite! You have nothing to lose but your
upgrade
> treadmills
If, by upgrade treadmills, you mean the flatbed treadmills, that have a
belt that is turned by the human walking on it, rather than the
electric
ones with electric motors for lazy humans, the ones that have the belt
I'm afraid he meant the treadmill that used to be called "planned
obsolescence". The thought that a perfectly satisfactory machine no
longer suffices for you because it is "yesterday's model". Thereafter it
will stop working with newer machines (or software) which are intended
to be incompatible with it.
And what is the end in view?
Sell you a new machine.
Interesting.
Last year, I bought the computer described below, as a refurbished
machine, and, it is far superior to the new computers that do not come
with enough RAM to be worthwhile.
This computer, with 128GB RAM, I regard as far superior to an i9
computer with 8GB RAM.
And, on this old computer, apart from (as part of its refurbishment), is
the 500GB NVVME (?) SSD primary hard drive, the 6TB internal second HD,
and, using some of the (about)6 USB ports, I have an external USB HDD
(about 2TB), and a T5 and a T7 external USB SSD drive, with room for
more; the T5 and T7 drives using the exFAT file system, with
extraordinarily fast data transfer rates.
So, old computers like this one, are superior to new computers.
And, for years, when dialup computing was used, I had used for a
mailserver, a used, low spec, HP server that I bought for 100AUD, that
had an MMX CPU, and, was quite adequate to be a mailserver, running
postfix and procmail, and, whatever version of Debian was on it, until
dialup was superseded by "broadband", for which, the modems imposed
DHCP, rather than static IP addresses, and I had to give up running my
own mailserver, because it became too complicated, when I could no
longer use static IP addresses.
And, this computer (not the ex-mailserver) cost about as much as a
bottom of the range new computer.
The new computers are rubbish.
Refurbished computer profile (with 128GB RAM (that runs about 200
windows of Firefox (I have one saved session, with 229 windows, and
about 3200 tabs), while viewing movies (I also have about 10 movies open
at present, in Celluloid and SMPlayer), although, at present, I have
only about 127 Firefox windows open, with 1689 tabs):
"
Machine:
Type: Desktop System: Dell product: Precision Tower 5810 v: N/A
serial: <superuser required>
Chassis: type: 7 serial: <superuser required>
Mobo: Dell model: 0K240Y v: A02 serial: <superuser required> UEFI:
Dell v: A34
date: 10/19/2020
CPU:
Info: 14-core model: Intel Xeon E5-2660 v4 bits: 64 type: MT MCP
arch: Broadwell rev: 1 cache:
L1: 896 KiB L2: 3.5 MiB L3: 35 MiB
Speed (MHz): avg: 1491 high: 2880 min/max: 1200/3200 cores: 1: 1198
2: 2539 3: 1199 4: 1197
5: 2827 6: 1197 7: 1198 8: 1197 9: 1197 10: 1197 11: 1202 12: 1198
13: 1357 14: 1201 15: 1199
16: 2880 17: 1197 18: 1197 19: 2727 20: 1197 21: 1198 22: 1304 23:
1197 24: 1197 25: 2828
26: 1198 27: 1353 28: 1197 bogomips: 111740
Flags: avx avx2 ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx
Graphics:
Device-1: NVIDIA TU116 [GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER] vendor: ASUSTeK
driver: nvidia v: 525.105.17
pcie: speed: 8 GT/s lanes: 16 ports: active: none off: HDMI-A-1
empty: DP-1,DVI-D-1
bus-ID: 03:00.0 chip-ID: 10de:21c4
Device-2: Sunplus Innovation AAPDQT-0622-W type: USB driver:
snd-usb-audio,uvcvideo
bus-ID: 3-13:6 chip-ID: 1bcf:2cb4
Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.4 compositor: marco v: 1.26.0
driver: X: loaded: nvidia
unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,nouveau,vesa gpu: nvidia display-ID: :0
screens: 1
Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1920x1080 s-dpi: 93
Monitor-1: HDMI-0 res: 1920x1080 dpi: 94 diag: 598mm (23.5")
OpenGL: renderer: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER/PCIe/SSE2 v: 4.6.0
NVIDIA 525.105.17
direct render: Yes
...
Info:
Processes: 556 Uptime: 9d 12h 26m Memory: 125.72 GiB used: 99.99 GiB
(79.5%) Init: systemd
v: 249 runlevel: 5 Compilers: gcc: 11.3.0 alt: 11/12 Client: Unknown
python3.10 client
inxi: 3.3.13
"
Some computers, like this one, perform far better, than the cheap and
nasty new computers (which cost far more, and, far too much), with the
new computers being best described as rubbish, produced by increasingly
malicious manufacturers (that make freedom of choice of operating
systems, and, performance, impossible).
..
Bret Busby
Armadale
West Australia
(UTC+0800)
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