* On 2020 01 Feb 13:48 -0600, Joe wrote: > Whether you read or not, Debian is getting more complicated, and > therefore more problems are occurring. True to a point but then we have more complicated systems to deal with, including but not limited to, EUFI and Secure Boot, which I use on this desktop. I did not have Secure Boot enabled when I installed Debian again in late 2018 but I did enable it later on. Now the only trip up is that I must sign any VirtualBox kernel modules which I have a script that will do so. Other things have become vastly less complicated as a user and administrator of my own systems. Xorg is completely self configuring. Gone are the days of mode lines and crossing your fingers. USB devices are trivial these days as is networking. Sure, sometimes things go astray and trouble ensues, but there is still plenty of help to be found when issues arise. Perhaps it is easier for me having experience from the mid '90s forward with Slackware and almost 20 1/2 years experience with Debian. Some point to systemd as needless complication. As a user/my own admin, I find it really no worse than init scripts (I'm no shell scripting guru). In fact, there are features I do find useful. I also trust Debian to provide a rather well behaved implementation and so far I have found that to be true. Modern computers are nothing but complicated. As a result they require a lot of complicated software. Fortunately, much of what I've learned over the years is still applicable. Sure, some things are no longer needed and learning new skills is required, but remaining static holds no future in today's world. - Nate -- "The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears this is true." Web: https://www.n0nb.us Projects: https://github.com/N0NB GPG fingerprint: 82D6 4F6B 0E67 CD41 F689 BBA6 FB2C 5130 D55A 8819
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